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term='Mitchell Conservatorium'/><title type='text'>Six Years</title><content type='html'>Do you keep a diary?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In January, 2006 I decided to attempt to follow in Dad's footsteps and start a diary. I've now completed the first 6 years in a Collins Kingsgrove Day to A Page diary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I didn't begin writing until Friday, 27th January, but tried to fill in the first month, after the event.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Looking back over the past six years is interesting, though I expect I have written down some unimportant things and neglected some of those that I should have recorded.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I won't forget 1st January, 2006 because on that day I preached at Bathurst Evangelical Church and then baptised &lt;b&gt;Luke Seve&lt;/b&gt; in the Macquarie River. It took a bit of doing to find a place where he could be fully immersed as the river was so shallow at that time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All sorts of things have happened in the past six years: my father's two sisters died, my mother died, several people's marriages died, but we also celebrated &lt;b&gt;David and Heidi'&lt;/b&gt;s wedding with our whole family. We were so pleased to have Justin come home for the wedding and introduce his wife, Debbie  to the family.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;During the life of this diary, Joan and I began going away to celebrate our wedding anniversary and have stayed in Wellington, Abercrombie Caves, Carcoar, Blackheath and Cowra.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We also welcomed our second, third and fourth grandchildren and were thrilled when Number Four was our first granddaughter, Hilary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The diary records my putting on all the weight I had lost in the couple of years before the diary began. I had lost 15 kilos, but by the time the diary was started I was already putting it on again, weighing 84 kilos on 1st January, 2006 and steadily increasing my weight until it was 97.8 on Cathy's birthday, 26th April, 2011.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;During this six year period, i enjoyed teaching Miriam Siers, and seeing her awarded her A Mus A. Very exciting!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On that day, I got serious about losing the weight and began a diet and a few days later joined &lt;b&gt;WeightWatchers&lt;/b&gt;. I'm pleased to say my first entry in my new diary records my weight as 82.2. I do hope to lose 8 kilos more and get to the top of what WeightWatchers says is my healthy weight range, stay there for 6 weeks and then get WeightWatchers free for life, provided that I don't gain more than 2 kilos.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I began the diary, I had embarked on a project of reading through the Old Testament, inspired by &lt;b&gt;Ron McCarthy&lt;/b&gt; having given us a chart to tick off reading through the New Testament in 90 days. I used the diary to record my progress and during the past six years have read the whole Bible through in &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Today's New International Version (TNIV)&lt;br /&gt;The ESV Reformation Study Bible, &lt;br /&gt;The Books of the Bible: a presentation of Today's New International Version&lt;br /&gt;The New Living Translation, 2nd edition&lt;br /&gt;The Good News Bible,&lt;br /&gt;The New Jerusalem Bible,&lt;br /&gt;The ESV Study Bible,&lt;br /&gt;The NIV Archaeological Study Bible&lt;br /&gt;and The Contemporary English Version (CEV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;I'm currently a third of the way through the Holman Christian Standard Bible, using Logos Bible Software and consulting the New Bible Commentary or Tyndale Commentaries as I go. And I'm about 20% of the way through listening to The Bible Experience, which is a dramatic presentation of the TNIV by an African-American cast.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm pleased to have a record of my activities as a census collector in 2006 and 2011. I sincerely hope it talks me out of ever attempting it again. It is a difficult, low-paying job, but I'm pleased to have at least got my first e-reader out of the meagre proceeds. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;During the past six years we have renewed our carpet and lino, bought 2 cars (both in 2007, because I wrote off our first Camry by driving straight through a Give Way sign on the corner of Howick and Rankin Sts and being collected by a Rural Fire Service Toyota Landcruiser, only 5 months after we purchased it).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also have a record of my activities working for Western Research Centre in another low-paying job which involved telephone market research. That was not a pleasant occupation and I stopped before the centre suspended work during the global financial crisis.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And I can look back on the first weeks of term 4 each year, where I ran a voluntary Music Appreciation program for &lt;b&gt;U3A&lt;/b&gt; at Mitchell Conservatorium. Over the past 9 years, I have enjoyed presenting programs on J S Bach, Mozart, Handel, Mendelssohn, Chopin and Schumann, 19th century Russian Music, 20th century British Music, French Music and Australian Music. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On 1st March ( St David's Day), 2009 I joined &lt;b&gt;Toastmasters&lt;/b&gt;. I can look back on a few of my adventures there by looking up Mondays.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My diary also records a little of what has happened at our church over the past six years, which has coincided with &lt;b&gt;Rodney Macready&lt;/b&gt; coming to be our pastor during 2006 and then &lt;b&gt;Mark Sutton&lt;/b&gt; joining him last year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you are still with me, I'd be interested to read how you use your diary. Haven't started one yet? Today could be an ideal time. Or you could start later in January, just as I did in 2006.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-4798784115019214357?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/4798784115019214357/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=4798784115019214357' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/4798784115019214357'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/4798784115019214357'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2012/01/six-years.html' title='Six Years'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-8884495750758331336</id><published>2011-12-18T07:22:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2011-12-18T07:22:56.785+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='liberal Christianity'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Unitarian Universalist Church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christopher Hitchens'/><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/A7lPoGO7y8k" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Christopher Hitchens speaks with Rev. Dr. Marilyn Sewell. Sewell is the recently retired minister of a large Unitarian Universalist congregation in Portland, Oregon. She professes to be a "liberal Christian" and actually brands atheist Hitchens a fundamentalist.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;His first comment to Dr Sewell about her version of Christianity:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I would say that if you don’t believe that Jesus of Nazareth was the Christ and Messiah, and that he rose again from the dead and by his sacrifice our sins are forgiven, you’re really not in any meaningful sense a Christian. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-8884495750758331336?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/8884495750758331336/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=8884495750758331336' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' 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width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-8823959087813343809</id><published>2011-12-18T00:02:00.001+11:00</published><updated>2011-12-18T00:03:24.276+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='David Cameron'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='King James Version'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='prime minister of Great Britain'/><title type='text'>David Cameron on the King James Bible</title><content type='html'>It's great to be here and to have this opportunity to come together today to mark the end of this very special 400th anniversary year for the King James Bible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know there are some who will question why I am giving this speech.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And if they happen to know that I'm setting out my views today in a former home of the current Archbishop of Canterbury...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...and in front of many great theologians and church leaders...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...they really will think I have entered the lions' den.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I am proud to stand here and celebrate the achievements of the King James Bible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not as some great Christian on a mission to convert the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But because, as Prime Minister, it is right to recognise the impact of a translation that is, I believe, one of this country's greatest achievements.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Bible is a book that has not just shaped our country, but shaped the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And with 3 Bibles sold or given away every second...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...a book that is not just important in understanding our past, but which will continue to have a profound impact in shaping our collective future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In making this speech I claim no religious authority whatsoever.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am a committed - but I have to say vaguely practising - Church of England Christian, who will stand up for the values and principles of my faith...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...but who is full of doubts and, like many, constantly grappling with the difficult questions when it comes to some of the big theological issues.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what I do believe is this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The King James Bible is as relevant today as at any point in its 400 year history.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And none of us should be frightened of recognising this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Put simply, three reasons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, the King James Bible has bequeathed a body of language that permeates every aspect of our culture and heritage...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;....from everyday phrases to our greatest works of literature, music and art.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We live and breathe the language of the King James Bible, sometimes without even realising it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And it is right that we should acknowledge this - particularly in this anniversary year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, just as our language and culture is steeped in the Bible, so too is our politics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From human rights and equality to our constitutional monarchy and parliamentary democracy...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...from the role of the church in the first forms of welfare provision, to the many modern day faith-led social action projects...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...the Bible has been a spur to action for people of faith throughout history, and it remains so today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Third, we are a Christian country.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And we should not be afraid to say so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me be clear: I am not in any way saying that to have another faith - or no faith - is somehow wrong.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know and fully respect that many people in this country do not have a religion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And I am also incredibly proud that Britain is home to many different faith communities, who do so much to make our country stronger.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what I am saying is that the Bible has helped to give Britain a set of values and morals which make Britain what it is today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Values and morals we should actively stand up and defend.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The alternative of moral neutrality should not be an option.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can't fight something with nothing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because if we don't stand for something, we can't stand against anything.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me take each of these points in turn.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, language and culture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Powerful language is incredibly evocative.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It crystallises profound, sometimes complex, thoughts and suggests a depth of meaning far beyond the words on the page...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...giving us something to share, to cherish, to celebrate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Part of the glue that can help to bind us together.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Along with Shakespeare, the King James Bible is a high point of the English language...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...creating arresting phrases that move, challenge and inspire.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of my favourites is the line "For now we see through a glass, darkly."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is a brilliant summation of the profound sense that there is more to life, that we are imperfect, that we get things wrong, that we should strive to see beyond our own perspective.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The key word is darkly - profoundly loaded, with many shades of meaning.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I feel the power is lost in some more literal translations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The New International Version says: "Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Good News Bible: "What we see now is like a dim image in a mirror"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They feel not just a bit less special but dry and cold, and don't quite have the same magic and meaning.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like Shakespeare, the King James translation dates from a period when the written word was intended to be read aloud.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And this helps to give it a poetic power and sheer resonance that in my view is not matched by any subsequent translation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It has also contributed immensely to the spread of spoken English around the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Indeed, the language of the King James Bible is very much alive today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've already mentioned the lions' den.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just think about some of the other things we all say.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Phrases like strength to strength...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...how the mighty are fallen...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...the skin of my teeth...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...the salt of the earth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;... nothing new under the sun.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to one recent study there are 257 of these phrases and idioms that come from the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These phrases are all around us...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...from court cases to TV sitcoms...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...and from recipe books to pop music lyrics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, there is a healthy debate about the extent to which it was the King James version that originated the many phrases in our language today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And it's right to recognise the impact of earlier versions like Tyndale, Wycliffe, Douai-Rheims, the Bishops and Geneva Bibles too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The King James Bible does exactly that...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...setting out with the stated aim of making a good translation better, or out of many good ones, to make "one principall good one"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what is clear is that the King James version gave the Bible's many expressions a much more widespread public presence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Much of that dissemination has come through our literature, through the great speeches we remember and the art and music we still enjoy today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From Milton to Morrison...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...and Coleridge to Cormac McCarthy...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...the Bible supports the plot, context, language and sometimes even the characters in some of our greatest literature.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tennyson makes over 400 Biblical references in his poems.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...and makes allusions to 42 different books of the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Bible has infused some of the greatest speeches...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...from Martin Luther King's dream that Isaiah's prophecy would be fulfilled and that one day "every valley shall be exalted...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...to Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg address which employed not just Biblical words but cadence and rhythms borrowed from the King James Bible as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When Lincoln said that his forefathers "brought forth" a new nation, he was imitating the way in which the Bible announced the birth of Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Bible also runs through our art.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From Giotto to El Greco...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...and Michelangelo to Stanley Spencer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The paintings in Sandham Memorial Chapel in Berkshire are some of my favourite works of art.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those who died in Salonika rising to heaven is religious art in the modern age and, in my view, as powerful as some of what has come before.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the Bible runs through our music too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From the great oratorios like J S Bach's Matthew and John Passions and Handel's Messiah...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...to the wealth of music written across the ages for mass and evensong in great cathedrals like this one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Biblical settings of composers from Tallis to Taverner are regularly celebrated here in this great cathedral...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...and will sustain our great British tradition of choral music for generations to come.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's impossible to do justice in a short speech to the full scale of the cultural impact of the King James Bible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what is clear is that four hundred years on, this book is still absolutely pivotal to our language and culture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And that's one very good reason for us all to recognise it today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A second reason is this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just as our language and culture is steeped in the Bible, so too is our politics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Bible runs through our political history in a way that is often not properly recognised.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The history and existence of a constitutional monarchy owes much to a Bible in which Kings were anointed and sanctified with the authority of God...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;....and in which there was a clear emphasis on the respect for Royal Power and the need to maintain political order.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus said: "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And yet at the same time, the Judeo-Christian roots of the Bible also provide the foundations for protest and for the evolution of our freedom and democracy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Torah placed the first limits on Royal Power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the knowledge that God created man in his own image was, if you like, a game changer for the cause of human dignity and equality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the ancient world this equity was inconceivable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Athens for example, full and equal rights were the preserve of adult, free born men.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But when each and every individual is related to a power above all of us...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...and when every human being is of equal and infinite importance, created in the very image of God...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...we get the irrepressible foundation for equality and human rights...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...a foundation that has seen the Bible at the forefront of the emergence of democracy, the abolition of slavery...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...and the emancipation of women - even if not every church has always got the point!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Crucially the translation of the Bible into English made all this accessible to many who had previously been unable to comprehend the Latin versions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And this created an unrelenting desire for change.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Putney debates in the Church of St Mary the Virgin in 1647 saw the first call for One Man, One vote...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...and the demand that authority be invested in the House of Commons rather than the King.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reading the Bible in English gave people equality with each other through God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And this led them to seek equality with each other through government.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a similar way, the Bible provides a defining influence on the formation of the first welfare state.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Matthew's Gospel, Jesus says that whatever people have done "unto one of the least of these my brethren"...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;... they have done unto him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just as in the past it was the influence of the church that enabled hospitals to be built, charities created, the hungry fed, the sick nursed and the poor given shelter...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...so today faith based groups are at the heart of modern social action.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Organisations like the Church Urban Fund which has supported over 5,000 faith based projects in England's poorest communities...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...including the Near Neighbours Programme which Eric Pickles helped to launch last month.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And St Ethelburga's Centre for Reconciliation and Peace in London's Bishopsgate...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...a building once destroyed by an IRA bomb...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...but now a centre where people divided by conflict, culture or religion can meet and listen to each other's perspective.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In total, there are almost 30 thousand faith based charities in this country...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...not to mention the thousands of people who step forward as individuals, as families, as communities, as organisations and yes, as churches....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...and do extraordinary things to help build a bigger, richer, stronger, more prosperous and more generous society.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And when it comes to the great humanitarian crises - like the famine in Horn of Africa - again you can count on faith-based organisations...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...like Christian Aid, Tearfund, CAFOD, Jewish Care, Islamic Relief, and Muslim Aid...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...to be at the forefront of the action to save lives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So it's right to recognise the huge contribution our faith communities make to our politics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...and to recognise the role of the Bible in inspiring many of their works.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;People often say that politicians shouldn't "do God."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If by that they mean we shouldn't try to claim a direct line to God for one particular political party...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...they could not be more right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But we shouldn't let our caution about that stand in the way of recognising both what our faith communities bring to our country...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...and also just how incredibly important faith is to so many people in Britain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Economist may have published the obituary of God in their Millennium issue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But in the past century, the proportion of people in the world who adhere to the four biggest religions has actually increased from around two-thirds to nearly three quarters...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...and is forecast to continue rising.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For example, it is now thought there are at least 65 million protestants in China and 12 million Catholics - more Christians than there are members of the communist party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Official numbers indicate China has about 20 million Muslims - almost as many as in Saudi Arabia - and nearly twice as many as in the whole of the EU.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And by 2050, some people think China could well be both the world's biggest Christian nation and its biggest Muslim one too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here in Britain we only have to look at the reaction to the Pope's visit last year...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...this year's Royal Wedding...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...or of course the festival of Christmas next week, to see that Christianity is alive and well in our country.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The key point is this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Societies do not necessarily become more secular with modernity but rather more plural, with a wider range of beliefs and commitments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And that brings me to my third point.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Bible has helped to shape the values which define our country.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Indeed, as Margaret Thatcher once said, "we are a nation whose ideals are founded on the Bible."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Responsibility, hard work, charity, compassion, humility, self-sacrifice, love...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...pride in working for the common good and honouring the social obligations we have to one another, to our families and our communities...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...these are the values we treasure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, they are Christian values.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And we should not be afraid to acknowledge that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But they are also values that speak to us all - to people of every faith and none.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And I believe we should all stand up and defend them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those who oppose this usually make the case for secular neutrality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They argue that by saying we are a Christian country and standing up for Christian values we are somehow doing down other faiths.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And that the only way not to offend people is not to pass judgement on their behaviour.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think these arguments are profoundly wrong.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And being clear on this is absolutely fundamental to who we are as a people...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...what we stand for...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...and the kind of society we want to build.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, those who say being a Christian country is doing down other faiths...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...simply don't understand that it is easier for people to believe and practise other faiths when Britain has confidence in its Christian identity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many people tell me it is much easier to be Jewish or Muslim here in Britain than it is in a secular country like France.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because the tolerance that Christianity demands of our society provides greater space for other religious faiths too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And because many of the values of a Christian country are shared by people of all faiths and indeed by people of no faith at all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, those who advocate secular neutrality in order to avoid passing judgement on the behaviour of others...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...fail to grasp the consequences of that neutrality...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...or the role that faith can play in helping people to have a moral code.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's be clear.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Faith is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition for morality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are Christians who don't live by a moral code.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And there are atheists and agnostics who do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But for people who do have a faith, their faith can be a helpful prod in the right direction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And whether inspired by faith or not - that direction, that moral code, matters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whether you look at the riots last summer...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...the financial crash and the expenses scandal...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...or the on-going terrorist threat from Islamist extremists around the world...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...one thing is clear: moral neutrality or passive tolerance just isn't going to cut it anymore.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shying away from speaking the truth about behaviour, about morality...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...has actually helped to cause some of the social problems that lie at the heart of the lawlessness we saw with the riots.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The absence of any real accountability, or moral code...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...allowed some bankers and politicians to behave with scant regard for the rest of society.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And when it comes to fighting violent extremism, the almost fearful passive tolerance of religious extremism that has allowed segregated communities to behave in ways that run completely counter to our values...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;... has not contained that extremism but allowed it to grow and prosper...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...in the process blackening the good name of the great religions that these extremists abuse for their own purposes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Put simply, for too long we have been unwilling to distinguish right from wrong.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Live and let live" has too often become "do what you please".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bad choices have too often been defended as just different lifestyles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To be confident in saying something is wrong...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...is not a sign of weakness, it's a strength.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But we can't fight something with nothing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I've said if we don't stand for something, we can't stand against anything.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the biggest lessons of the riots last Summer is that we've got stand up for our values if we are to confront the slow-motion moral collapse that has taken place in parts of our country these past few generations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The same is true of religious extremism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As President Obama wrote in the Audacity of Hope:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"...in reaction to religious overreach we equate tolerance with secularism, and forfeit the moral language that would help infuse our politics with larger meaning."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Frankly, we need a lot less of the passive tolerance of recent years and a much more active, muscular liberalism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A passively tolerant society says to its citizens, as long as you obey the law we will just leave you alone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It stands neutral between different values.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I believe a genuinely liberal country does much more; it believes in certain values and actively promotes them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We need to stand up for these values.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To have the confidence to say to people - this is what defines us as a society...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...and that to belong here is to believe in these things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe the church - and indeed all our religious leaders and their communities in Britain - have a vital role to play in helping to achieve this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have never really understood the argument some people make about the church not getting involved in politics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To me, Christianity, faith, religion, the Church and the Bible are all inherently involved in politics because so many political questions are moral questions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I don't think we should be shy or frightened of this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I certainly don't object to the Archbishop of Canterbury expressing his views on politics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Religion has a moral basis and if he doesn't agree with something he's right to say so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But just as it is legitimate for religious leaders to make political comments, he shouldn't be surprised when I respond.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also it's legitimate for political leaders to say something about religious institutions as they see them affecting our society, not least in the vital areas of equality and tolerance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe the Church of England has a unique opportunity to help shape the future of our communities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But to do so it must keep on the agenda that speaks to the whole country.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The future of our country is at a pivotal moment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The values we draw from the Bible go to the heart of what it means to belong in this country...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...and you, as the Church of England, can help ensure that it stays that way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From &lt;a href="http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/42180/david_camerons_speech_on_the_king_james_bible.html"&gt;Politics Home&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-8823959087813343809?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/8823959087813343809/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=8823959087813343809' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8823959087813343809'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8823959087813343809'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2011/12/david-cameron-on-king-james-bible.html' title='David Cameron on the King James Bible'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-6921573474401455240</id><published>2011-12-16T07:42:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2011-12-16T07:42:29.885+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jerome'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='1 Chronicles'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Holman Christian Standard Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='HCSB'/><title type='text'>Reading Chronicles</title><content type='html'>I'm guessing that Chronicles is one of the least-read parts of holy Scripture. The first nine chapters of 1 Chronicles would put off all but the most determined, as they consist almost entirely of lists: mainly genealogies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today, I begin 2 Chronicles. I am reading through the &lt;a href="http://www.mystudybible.com/"&gt;Holman Christian Standard Bible&lt;/a&gt;, using &lt;a href="http://www.logos.com/"&gt;Logos Bible Study software&lt;/a&gt;. I open &lt;a href="http://books.google.com.au/books?id=K8zI79a3-5EC&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;How to Read the Bible, Book by Book&lt;/a&gt; and get an overview of what I'm reading, also consulting, The New Bible Commentary, and the Tyndale commentary on the book I'm reading.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chronicles was originally one book, as was Samuel-Kings. It was called The Book of the Days by the Jews, but after &lt;a href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08341a.htm"&gt;Jerome&lt;/a&gt; remarked that it was &lt;i&gt;a chronicle of the whole of sacred history&lt;/i&gt;, it gained its present title of Chronicles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My first grandchild is named Jerome. He is sitting with me in the front of the car. His brother Hamish is sitting with my wife Joan in the back seat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QS2u29wovSQ/TupbhgAqpyI/AAAAAAAAANE/sSAUcg2XM5M/s1600/blackheath%2Bcrop.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QS2u29wovSQ/TupbhgAqpyI/AAAAAAAAANE/sSAUcg2XM5M/s320/blackheath%2Bcrop.jpg" width="306" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-6921573474401455240?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/6921573474401455240/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=6921573474401455240' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6921573474401455240'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6921573474401455240'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2011/12/reading-chronicles.html' title='Reading Chronicles'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QS2u29wovSQ/TupbhgAqpyI/AAAAAAAAANE/sSAUcg2XM5M/s72-c/blackheath%2Bcrop.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-3590939795023908131</id><published>2011-12-15T13:51:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T13:52:28.300+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Limelight magazine'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Clive Robertson'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ABC Classic FM'/><title type='text'>Clive's Rules for Modern Living</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mMKHJpt1WTw/TulgO515f3I/AAAAAAAAAM4/5aRKP-Z_bTQ/s1600/Clive%2BRobertson.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="214" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mMKHJpt1WTw/TulgO515f3I/AAAAAAAAAM4/5aRKP-Z_bTQ/s320/Clive%2BRobertson.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Robertson_%28journalist%29"&gt;Clive Robertson&lt;/a&gt; was presenting the morning program on &lt;a href="http://www.abc.net.au/classic/"&gt;ABC Classic FM&lt;/a&gt;, he gave this list to &lt;a href="http://blogs.limelightmagazine.com.au/"&gt;Limelight&lt;/a&gt; magazine [or was it 24 Hours?]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't agree with all of it, but think most of it is sound.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;1. Have a picnic twice a year at least.&lt;br /&gt;2. Listen to classical music.&lt;br /&gt;3. Listen to pop music. Loud.&lt;br /&gt;4. Walk a lot. Rest and eat properly.&lt;br /&gt;5. Take photos.&lt;br /&gt;6. When you're depressed, photograph flowers.&lt;br /&gt;7. Drive to &lt;a href="http://www.visitbrokenhill.com.au/"&gt;Broken Hill&lt;/a&gt; and stay a week.&lt;br /&gt;8. Don't be disappointed in other human beings. We're all like that. You, too.&lt;br /&gt;9. Consider not having children.&lt;br /&gt;10. Learn self-sufficiency.&lt;br /&gt;11. Believe in God. He's bigger than everything put together. He's either your best friend or your worst enemy. Choose now.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;i need to take more of this on board, but I can't do anything about 9 and certainly wouldn't want to.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-3590939795023908131?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/3590939795023908131/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=3590939795023908131' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/3590939795023908131'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/3590939795023908131'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2011/12/clives-rules-for-modern-living.html' title='Clive&apos;s Rules for Modern Living'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mMKHJpt1WTw/TulgO515f3I/AAAAAAAAAM4/5aRKP-Z_bTQ/s72-c/Clive%2BRobertson.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-8266725944971597597</id><published>2011-10-23T12:44:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2011-10-23T12:44:22.438+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Stephen Neill'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Accidental Anglican'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Todd Hunter'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='J I Packer'/><title type='text'>How to be Bible-based and Bible-oriented</title><content type='html'>J I Packer, in his foreword to Todd Hunter's &lt;a href="http://www.toddhunter.org/featured/the-accidental-anglican-new/"&gt;The Accidental Anglican&lt;/a&gt;, cites Bishop Stephen Neill's dictum &lt;blockquote&gt;Show us anything the bible teaches that we are not teaching, and we will teach it&lt;br /&gt;Show us anything we are teaching that the bible does not teach, and we will cut it out.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-8266725944971597597?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/8266725944971597597/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=8266725944971597597' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8266725944971597597'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8266725944971597597'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2011/10/how-to-be-bible-based-and-bible.html' title='How to be Bible-based and Bible-oriented'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-4938158093415196692</id><published>2011-09-27T15:51:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2011-09-27T15:51:21.783+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Col Marshall'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Phillip Jensen'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Matthias Media'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tony Payne'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Peter Bolt'/><title type='text'>The ministry mind-shift that changes everything?</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;The ministry mind-shift that changes everything&lt;/b&gt; is the audacious subtitle which Col Marshall and Tony Payne chose for their 2009 book &lt;i&gt;The Trellis and The Vine&lt;/i&gt;. I don't know how other readers reacted to it, but it made me sit up and take notice. It also led me to wonder if they would be able to substantiate their promise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The story begins with Col telling us about his beautiful, carefully preserved trellis with no vine, and his luxuriant jasmine vine, covering a rather ramshackle, disappearing structure that may once have looked like a trellis.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Throughout the book, the authors develop their theme that churches can be like the two trellises in his garden. Some of them are quite beautiful trellises, but there is no vine to be seen. Others have growth, without any structure, which is still necessary if the vine is to stay alive and grow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As expected, it wasn't hard to describe the problems that many churches face. All too often we are busy with structures, but we aren't growing Christ's church: just running meetings, keeping the building in good order, collecting and distributing money and doing the many things that are thought to be essential parts of running a church in the twenty first century.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We may also be looking after people by visiting those who are sick or suffering, conducting weddings and funerals and getting the congregation involved in church meetings and small group, but Marshall and Payne point out that this is not our main function, which they say should be &lt;b&gt;making genuine disciple-making disciples of Jesus.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In their view, training people to train others is growing the vine; everything else is trellis-work. Getting people to attend meetings and to be involved in small groups may be creating a useful structure on which the vine will grow, or it may be something which takes over and actually prevents us from growing the vine. We can be so busy doing good things, such as helping in crises, that we are crowded out from doing the essential thing, which is making disciple-makers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Having described the problems with telling accuracy, they spend the rest of the book outlining their model which they have developed for identifying, recruiting and training co-workers. This has been a key part of their Ministry Training Strategy, in which new Christian workers are apprenticed for two years, before progressing to theological college for formal, academic training.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The case for training people to be disciple-makers is argued persuasively and many valuable suggestions are made for how churches can change from being (in Peter Bolt's words) in maintenance mode to being mission-minded. Marshall and Payne challenge us that if we are serious about building Christ's kingdom, we must be willing to change and even dismantle structures so that we can do the most important thing of all, which is making disciple-makers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have they lived up to their cheeky promise, or is this just another book that is being foisted on us, as the way to do Christian ministry? Is it going to turn out to be yet another short-lived fad?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Christian leaders from Chile, South Africa, England, the United States and Australia have written glowing endorsements of the book, which is the distillation of a view of Christian ministry which has been used by Phillip Jensen, dean of St Andrews' Anglican Cathedral, Sydney and Colin Marshall over the past 25 years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Ministry Training Strategy has been tested and incorporated into churches in Australia, Canada, Britain, France, the Republic of Ireland, Singapore, New Zealand, Taiwan, Chile and South Africa. (See page 143&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reading this book is confronting, but necessary. It is a superb book for everyone interested in serving Christ whole-heartedly. There would be few Christians and who would not benefit from reading it and changing practices so that their focus shifts to building Christ's kingdom through making disciple-makers.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-4938158093415196692?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.matthiasmedia.com.au/the-trellis-and-the-vine' title='The ministry mind-shift that changes everything?'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/4938158093415196692/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=4938158093415196692' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/4938158093415196692'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/4938158093415196692'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2011/09/ministry-mind-shift-that-changes.html' title='The ministry mind-shift that changes everything?'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-6457320571441931421</id><published>2011-07-05T14:21:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2011-07-05T14:21:52.086+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Baptist'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Islam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Buddhism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Census 2011'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Anglican'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Roman Catholic'/><title type='text'>Question 21</title><content type='html'>I see there is a &lt;a href="http://www.censusnoreligion.org/"&gt;campaign&lt;/a&gt; to get people to answer No Religion in this year's Australian Census. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K4KCoQLqho"&gt;Youtube video&lt;/a&gt; the narrator challenges viewers that if they no longer practise the religion of their childhood, they should mark No Religion on the census form.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This reminds me of Sunday School, where we were told that being born into a Christian family does not make you a Christian, any more than being born in a garage would make you a car. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(I found this amusing when the band born in a garage named themselves The Cars.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Interestingly, his script assumes that people who believe in euthanasia and same-sex marriage should make sure they check the No Religion box. I wonder if some people would agree with one or more of these points of view, but not consider themselves to be atheists?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have my own misgivings about the question, because it assumes that there are religions called Catholic, Anglican, Uniting Church, Presbyterian, Baptist and Lutheran, which are put along side of Islam and Buddhism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Firstly, wouldn't the grammatical equivalent of Islam be Catholic&lt;i&gt;ism&lt;/i&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And, secondly, are Catholic, Presbyterian, etc &lt;i&gt;religions&lt;/i&gt;, or denominations of the Christian religion?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-6457320571441931421?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/6457320571441931421/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=6457320571441931421' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6457320571441931421'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6457320571441931421'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2011/07/question-21.html' title='Question 21'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-5514397800062342060</id><published>2011-07-05T13:27:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2011-07-05T13:27:01.795+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Wall Street Journal'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tim Keller'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='David Foster Wallace'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Atheism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bob Dylan'/><title type='text'>No such thing as atheism?</title><content type='html'>David Foster Wallace made the following powerful statement. Wallace was an avowed atheist, who committed suicide by hanging himself in 2008. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The full article appeared in &lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122178211966454607.html"&gt;The Wall Street Journal&lt;/a&gt;. He does not clarify or deny what he says here in the rest of the article. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Because there's something else that's true. In the day-to-day trenches of adult life, there is actually no such thing as atheism. There is no such thing as not worshipping. Everybody worships. The only choice we get is what to worship. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And an outstanding reason for choosing some sort of God or spiritual-type thing to worship -- be it J.C. or Allah, be it Yahweh or the Wiccan mother-goddess or the Four Noble Truths or some infrangible set of ethical principles -- is that pretty much anything else you worship will eat you alive. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you worship money and things -- if they are where you tap real meaning in life -- then you will never have enough. Never feel you have enough. It's the truth. Worship your own body and beauty and sexual allure and you will always feel ugly, and when time and age start showing, you will die a million deaths before they finally plant you.  &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think Bob Dylan's &lt;a href="http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/gotta-serve-somebody"&gt;Gotta Serve Somebody&lt;/a&gt; is complementary and explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tim Keller cites this quote in his sermons.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-5514397800062342060?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/5514397800062342060/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=5514397800062342060' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/5514397800062342060'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/5514397800062342060'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2011/07/no-such-thing-as-atheism.html' title='No such thing as atheism?'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-5441695041577569217</id><published>2011-06-25T14:36:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2011-06-25T14:49:10.803+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Columbo Tactic'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Stand To Reason'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Greg Koukl'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lieutenant Columbo'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Peter Falk'/><title type='text'>The Columbo Tactic</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--5eJVRg9Mws/TgVle-3nHWI/AAAAAAAAAIg/Mt_WXCttzTI/s1600/Peter%2BFalk.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear:left; float:left;margin-right:1em; margin-bottom:1em"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="250" width="202" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--5eJVRg9Mws/TgVle-3nHWI/AAAAAAAAAIg/Mt_WXCttzTI/s400/Peter%2BFalk.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Peter Falk, creator of the unforgettable Lieutenant Columbo, a brilliant detective with a clever way of catching a crook, died on Thursday, aged 83.&lt;br /&gt;In this enjoyable TV series, the inspector arrives on the scene in complete disarray, his trench coat rumpled beyond repair, his cigar wedged tightly between his stubby fingers. His pencil has gone missing again, rendering his notebook useless, until  a bystander takes pity on him and loans one to him. &lt;br /&gt;To all appearances, Columbo is bumbling, inept and completely harmless. He couldn't think his way out of a wet paper bag, or so it seems. However the lieutenant has a simple plan that accounts for his remarkable success. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.str.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&amp;id=7975"&gt;Greg Koukl&lt;/a&gt;, radio broadcaster and Christian apologist, has written about this technique in &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Tactics-Game-Discussing-Christian-Convictions/dp/0310282926"&gt;Tactics&lt;/a&gt;, an intriguing book  in which he provides a game plan for discussing your Christian convictions. (This technique could, of course, be used by anybody who wants others to think through the logic of their opinions.) &lt;br /&gt;Here is how Greg presents &lt;b&gt;The Columbo Tactic&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;After poking around the crime scene, scratching his head, and muttering to himself, Columbo makes his trademark move.&lt;br /&gt;"I got a problem," he says as he rubs his furrowed brow.&lt;br /&gt;"There's something about this thing that bothers me."&lt;br /&gt;He pauses a moment to ponder his predicament, then turns to his suspect.&lt;br /&gt;"You seem like a very intelligent person. Maybe you can clear it up for me. Do you mind if I ask you a question?"&lt;br /&gt; The first query is innocent enough. For the moment, he seems satisfied by the answer. Then as he turns on his heels to leave, he stops himself mid-stride, turns back, raises his index finger and says, "Just one more thing."&lt;br /&gt;This leads to another question and another.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Columbo's tactic is to go on the offensive in an inoffensive way by using carefully selected questions to productively advance the conversation. Koukl concludes with this advice: Never make a statement, at least at first, when a question will do the job.&lt;/blockquote&gt;This is my light revision of Koukl's own words. A thought-provoking book. I've read it twice, so far. There are some interesting reviews of Tactics at www.amazon.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-5441695041577569217?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.amazon.com/Tactics-Game-Discussing-Christian-Convictions/dp/0310282926' title='The Columbo Tactic'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/5441695041577569217/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=5441695041577569217' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/5441695041577569217'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/5441695041577569217'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2011/06/columbo-tactic.html' title='The Columbo Tactic'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--5eJVRg9Mws/TgVle-3nHWI/AAAAAAAAAIg/Mt_WXCttzTI/s72-c/Peter%2BFalk.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-6799482346207352322</id><published>2011-06-07T20:35:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2011-06-07T20:35:04.190+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Adam and Eve'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tim Keller'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Creation and Evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Collins'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ESV Study Bible'/><title type='text'>Did Adam and Eve Really exist?</title><content type='html'>John Collins wrote some terrific articles and notes in the ESV Study Bible, including the terrific article and notes on the Book of Psalms.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;His book &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Did-Adam-Eve-Really-Exist/dp/1433524252/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1307442431&amp;sr=8-1"&gt;on the historicity of Adam and Eve&lt;/a&gt; looks well worth reading and digesting. I have so far only read samples and endorsements, but am confident it will be well worth our time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tim Keller's article which I linked to in the previous post is an extract from &lt;a href="http://www.biologos.org/uploads/projects/Keller_white_paper.pdf"&gt;Creation, Evolution and Christian Laypeople&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More food for thought.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-6799482346207352322?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.amazon.com/Did-Adam-Eve-Really-Exist/dp/1433524252/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1307442431&amp;sr=8-1' title='Did Adam and Eve Really exist?'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/6799482346207352322/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=6799482346207352322' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6799482346207352322'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6799482346207352322'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2011/06/did-adam-and-eve-really-exist.html' title='Did Adam and Eve Really exist?'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-515255319044973057</id><published>2011-06-07T12:42:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2011-06-07T12:42:27.774+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tim Keller'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Justin Taylor'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Creation and Evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Collins'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='science'/><title type='text'>You wouldn't Adam and Eve it</title><content type='html'>Disclaimer: I was not a great Science student and happily gave up going to class in Fourth Form [aka Year Ten] in 1968.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, I do like to ponder these matters. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In my opinion, if the Bible is reliable, it is there that we must start.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems to me that many Christians begin with current scientific thinking, and then attempt to get the Bible to conform itself to Science.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Other Christians, while aiming to affirm the Bible, adopt a particular understanding of the world's origins, which they think is in harmony with the Bible, but which actually goes way beyond the biblical data.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/"&gt;Christianity Today&lt;/a&gt; has several recent interesting articles on the issue of the historicity of Adam and Eve.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The current issue has an editorial provocatively entitled &lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2011/june/noadamevenogospel.html"&gt;No Adam, no Eve, No Gospel&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The article begins with &lt;blockquote&gt;Science as we know it grew from pagan, occult, and biblical roots.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Christianity Today likes to emphasize the biblical sources. The story of creation, told in Genesis and elaborated in the New Testament, pictures a rational intelligence creating an orderly and predictable cosmos.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Without that predictability in the natural world, neither Newton nor Einstein would have been possible. There are times, however, when a careful reading of the natural world seems to conflict with our reading of Scripture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sometimes, Christian ways of thinking must adjust. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It continues, by outlining the new challenge to theology made by Francis Collins, a Christian who was involved in describing the human genome: &lt;blockquote&gt;Now we come to another great moment of tension between Christian readings of Scripture and science. This issue's cover story, "The Search for the Historical Adam," reports the claims of recent genetic research that the human race did not emerge from pre-human animals as a single pair, as an "Adam" and an "Eve." The complexity of the human genome, we are told, requires an original population of around 10,000.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The article comes down on the side of a conservative understanding of the biblical data by stating that&lt;blockquote&gt;there must be an original pair of humans endowed with souls—that is, the spiritual capacity to relate to God in the special way Genesis describes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Does it matter? &lt;blockquote&gt;What is at stake?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, the entire story of what is wrong with the world hinges on the disobedient exercise of the will by the first humans. The problem with the human race is not its dearth of insight but its misshapen will.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, the entire story of salvation hinges on the obedience of the Second Adam. The apostle Paul, the earliest Christian writer to interpret Jesus' work, called Adam "a type of the one who was to come" (Rom. 5:14, ESV), and wrote that "[j]ust as we have borne the image of the man of dust [Adam], we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven [Jesus]" (1 Cor. 15:49, ESV). He elaborated an "Adam Christology" that described a fallen humanity, headed by Adam, and a new, redeemed humanity with Christ as its head.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This understanding, that Christ's obedience undoes Adam's disobedience, is not some late development, but is integrated with the earliest interpretations of what God did and is doing in Christ. This conceptual framework is almost impossible without a first human couple.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The article finally allows for the possibility that there may have been an original population of which Adam and Eve were the leaders, but this seems to me to conflict with what Genesis 1-3 tell us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See also Richard Ostling's &lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2011/june/historicaladam.html"&gt;The Search for the Historical Adam&lt;/a&gt;, Justin Taylor's discussion of Jack Collins' new book  &lt;a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2011/05/27/did-adam-and-eve-really-exist/"&gt;Did Adam and Eve Really exist? &lt;/a&gt; and Tim Keller's &lt;a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2011/06/06/sinned-in-a-literal-adam-raised-in-a-literal-christ/"&gt;Sinned in a Literal Adam, Raised in a Literal Christ&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-515255319044973057?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/515255319044973057/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=515255319044973057' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/515255319044973057'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/515255319044973057'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2011/06/you-wouldnt-adam-and-eve-it.html' title='You wouldn&apos;t Adam and Eve it'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-2668205021968450716</id><published>2011-05-27T21:37:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2011-05-27T21:37:53.401+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rick Warren'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Purpose Driven Life'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Piper'/><title type='text'>John Piper interviews Rick Warren</title><content type='html'>John Piper's &lt;a href="https://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/john-piper-interviews-rick-warren-on-doctrine#ooid=xleTRoMjqCczU53DMfsqlrBP774ZPxAc"&gt;discussion with Rick Warren&lt;/a&gt; shows that Warren is not the lightweight populist that many people have assumed. It shows he has a first class knowledge of the Bible and of Reformed theology.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The interview is long, but well worth watching. If you don't have an hour and a half to spare, at least please read what John Piper says about the interview at the linked site.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-2668205021968450716?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='https://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/john-piper-interviews-rick-warren-on-doctrine#ooid=xleTRoMjqCczU53DMfsqlrBP774ZPxAc' title='John Piper interviews Rick Warren'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/2668205021968450716/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=2668205021968450716' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/2668205021968450716'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/2668205021968450716'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2011/05/john-piper-interviews-rick-warren.html' title='John Piper interviews Rick Warren'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-6225760823688665937</id><published>2011-05-05T10:43:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2011-05-05T10:43:27.575+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='youth'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='J Gresham Machen'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Everything old is new again'/><title type='text'>Everything Old Is New Again</title><content type='html'>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is a great mistake… to suppose that we who are called “conservatives” hold desperately to certain beliefs merely because they are old, and are opposed to the discovery of new facts. &lt;br /&gt;On the contrary, we welcome new discoveries with all our hearts, and we believe that our cause will come to its rights again only when youth throws off its present intellectual lethargy, refuses to go thoughtlessly with the anti-intellectual current of the age, and recovers some genuine independence of mind…&lt;br /&gt;…We are seeking to arouse youth from its present uncritical repetition of current phrases into some genuine examination of the basis of life; and we believe that Christianity flourishes not in the darkness, but the light.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;J Gresham Machen,1925&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-6225760823688665937?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://thegenevapush.com/blogs/groundedgrowing/j_gresham_machen_and_the_youth_of_today' title='Everything Old Is New Again'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/6225760823688665937/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=6225760823688665937' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6225760823688665937'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6225760823688665937'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2011/05/everything-old-is-new-again.html' title='Everything Old Is New Again'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-4939521149239308293</id><published>2011-03-29T21:20:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2011-03-29T21:20:15.572+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='gospel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tullian Tchividjian'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Grace'/><title type='text'>What To Preach To Yourself Every Day</title><content type='html'>A great quote from &lt;b&gt;Tullian Tchividjian&lt;/b&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;I used to think that growing as a Christian meant I had to somehow go out and obtain the qualities and attitudes I was lacking. To really mature, I needed to find a way to get more joy, more patience, more faithfulness, and so on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then I came to the shattering realization that this isn’t what the Bible teaches, and it isn’t the gospel. What the Bible teaches is that we mature as we come to a greater realization of what we already have in Christ. The gospel, in fact, transforms us precisely because it’s not itself a message about our internal transformation, but Christ’s external substitution. We desperately need an Advocate, Mediator, and Friend. But what we need most is a Substitute. Someone who has done for us and secured for us what we could never do and secure for ourselves.&lt;br /&gt;The hard work of Christian growth, therefore, is to think less of me and my performance and more of Jesus and his performance for me. Ironically, when we focus mostly on our need to get better we actually get worse. We become neurotic and self-absorbed. Preoccupation with my effort over God’s effort for me makes me increasingly self-centered and morbidly introspective.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Key sentence from Elyse Fitzpatrick, whom Tullian quotes:  "If we fail to remember our justification, redemption, and reconciliation, we’ll struggle in our sanctification."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-4939521149239308293?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://dcbiblestudy.com/what-to-preach-to-yourself-everyday' title='What To Preach To Yourself Every Day'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/4939521149239308293/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=4939521149239308293' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/4939521149239308293'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/4939521149239308293'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2011/03/what-to-preach-to-yourself-every-day.html' title='What To Preach To Yourself Every Day'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-2703421162122647699</id><published>2011-03-20T18:34:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2011-03-20T18:34:48.461+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Charles Simeon'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Calvinism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Arminianism'/><title type='text'>Wise Words from Charles Simeon</title><content type='html'>there is not a decided Calvinist or Arminian in the world who equally approves of the whole of Scripture . . . who, if he had been in the company of St. Paul whilst he was writing his Epistles, would not have recommended him to alter one or other of his expressions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    But the author [Simeon himself] would not wish one of them altered; he finds as much satisfaction in one class of passages as another; and employs the one, he believes, as freely as the other. Where the inspired Writers speak in unqualified terms, he thinks himself at liberty to do the same; judging that they needed no instruction from him how to propagate the truth. He is content to sit as a learner at the feet of the holy Apostles and has no ambition to teach them how they ought to have spoken.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cited in H.C.G. Moule, Charles Simeon (London: InterVarsity, 1948), 79.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-2703421162122647699?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2011/03/19/preaching-the-whole-counsel-of-god/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+between2worlds+%28Between+Two+Worlds%29&amp;utm_content=Twitter' title='Wise Words from Charles Simeon'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/2703421162122647699/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=2703421162122647699' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/2703421162122647699'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/2703421162122647699'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2011/03/wise-words-from-charles-simeon.html' title='Wise Words from Charles Simeon'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-1560789805726485901</id><published>2011-03-14T11:40:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2011-03-14T11:40:45.385+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Arminians'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Calvinism'/><title type='text'>Calvinist versus Arminian</title><content type='html'>The Calvinist says something like, "God's grace is irresistible and His&lt;br /&gt;calling effectual."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Arminian translates that as, "So, you believe in a God who zaps people&lt;br /&gt;against their will and forces them to believe in Jesus?  You think that we are&lt;br /&gt;robots and that God has no regard for what a person really wants."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Someone who calls herself Mrs Webfoot posted this on the Yahoo Theology list.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think it is well said, but I also wonder if an Arminian could give us a rejoinder on how Calvinists caricature their point of view.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-1560789805726485901?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/1560789805726485901/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=1560789805726485901' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1560789805726485901'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1560789805726485901'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2011/03/calvinist-versus-arminian.html' title='Calvinist versus Arminian'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-7388654164849067667</id><published>2011-01-12T08:53:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2011-01-12T08:53:58.301+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='George Harrison'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gone Troppo'/><title type='text'>Hence the title?</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/2kKMbebuQTI?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_GB&amp;amp;rel=0"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/2kKMbebuQTI?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_GB&amp;amp;rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-7388654164849067667?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/7388654164849067667/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=7388654164849067667' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7388654164849067667'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7388654164849067667'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2011/01/hence-title.html' title='Hence the title?'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-7776894317417106026</id><published>2011-01-01T09:43:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2011-01-01T09:43:22.207+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Paul House'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='1 Corinthians'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Miscellanies'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tony Reinke'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New Year&apos;s resolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New Year'/><title type='text'>A good resolution</title><content type='html'>I like Tony Reinke's &lt;a href="http://spurgeon.wordpress.com/"&gt;Miscellanies&lt;/a&gt; blog and his post about a good New Year's resolution is a typical helpful post.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What are you resolving? Tony cites these words of the apostle Paul:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. &lt;i&gt;NIV&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He points out that Paul is not anti-intellectual, but is opposing intellectual vanity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tony concludes with:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;May each of us resolve to center our lives upon Jesus Christ and him crucified in 2011.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-7776894317417106026?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://spurgeon.wordpress.com/2010/12/31/resolved-to-know-nothing/' title='A good resolution'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/7776894317417106026/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=7776894317417106026' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7776894317417106026'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7776894317417106026'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2011/01/good-resolution.html' title='A good resolution'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-5633923658864479424</id><published>2010-12-23T11:00:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2010-12-23T11:00:14.269+11:00</updated><title type='text'>168 hours: Christmas Eve, by Christina Rossetti</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://168hrs.blogspot.com/2010/12/christmas-eve-by-christina-rossetti.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+168Hours+%28168+hours%29"&gt;168 hours: Christmas Eve, by Christina Rossetti&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-5633923658864479424?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://168hrs.blogspot.com/2010/12/christmas-eve-by-christina-rossetti.html?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+168Hours+%28168+hours%29' title='168 hours: Christmas Eve, by Christina Rossetti'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/5633923658864479424/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=5633923658864479424' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/5633923658864479424'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/5633923658864479424'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/12/168-hours-christmas-eve-by-christina.html' title='168 hours: Christmas Eve, by Christina Rossetti'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-2235097341701496534</id><published>2010-11-18T11:02:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2010-11-18T11:02:26.234+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Voltaire'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Prayer of St Francis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Misattributions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Martin Luther'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bach'/><title type='text'>Authors never wrote their most famous quotes?</title><content type='html'>Michael Thompson points out in the post linked above that Luther probably never said these beloved words:&lt;blockquote&gt;If I profess with the loudest voice and clearest exposition every portion of the truth of God except precisely that little point which the world and the devil are at the moment attacking, I am not confessing Christ, however boldly I may be professing Christ. Where the battle rages, there the loyalty of the soldier is proved. To be steady on all battle fronts besides is mere flight and disgrace if he flinches at that point.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And &lt;a href="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Voltaire"&gt;Voltaire&lt;/a&gt; never said:&lt;blockquote&gt;I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Francis_of_Assisi"&gt;Francis&lt;/a&gt; never said:&lt;blockquote&gt;Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words&lt;/blockquote&gt;and never &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayer_of_Saint_Francis"&gt;prayed&lt;/a&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;Lord, make me an instrument of your peace&lt;/blockquote&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And worst of all, Bach never wrote his two most famous minuets in G, nor his lovely musette!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-2235097341701496534?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://markdthompson.blogspot.com/2010/11/evangelical-courage.html' title='Authors never wrote their most famous quotes?'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/2235097341701496534/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=2235097341701496534' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/2235097341701496534'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/2235097341701496534'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/11/authors-never-wrote-their-most-famous.html' title='Authors never wrote their most famous quotes?'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-1561119480776471158</id><published>2010-11-17T07:14:00.004+11:00</published><updated>2010-11-17T14:50:13.963+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Greek'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Martin Luther'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hebrew'/><title type='text'>Why study biblical languages?</title><content type='html'>"We may not be able to retain the gospel without the knowledge of the languages in which it was written. For they are the scabbard in which this sword of the spirit is sheathed.... Indeed, should we overlook all this, and (which God forbid...!) let go our hold on the languages, then we would ... lose the gospel."&lt;br /&gt;- Martin Luther&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-1561119480776471158?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/1561119480776471158/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=1561119480776471158' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1561119480776471158'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1561119480776471158'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/11/why-study-biblical-languages_9223.html' title='Why study biblical languages?'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-5908680841708302283</id><published>2010-11-10T07:23:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2010-11-10T07:23:37.074+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ESV'/><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/16535086?title=0&amp;amp;byline=0&amp;amp;portrait=0&amp;amp;color=ffffff" width="400" height="225" frameborder="0"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/16535086"&gt;ESV Trusted By Leaders&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/crosswaymedia"&gt;Crossway&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Somebody said that the blokes in this video missed an opportunity to do a new version of Bohemian Rhapsody!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I find the way the ESV is promoted in this video and the way the ESV is generally promoted to be a little scary. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The video seems to imply that the ESV is so reliable, it is the only version you need.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I really like the ESV and have read it through completely twice, but I don't think that it is so reliable that we don't need  the other popular Bible versions also.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It comes close to asking us to put our faith in the ESV version rather than in God and his Word, I think.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-5908680841708302283?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/5908680841708302283/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=5908680841708302283' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/5908680841708302283'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/5908680841708302283'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/11/esv-trusted-by-leaders-from-crossway-on.html' title=''/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-1127513374086726205</id><published>2010-11-03T23:25:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2010-11-03T23:25:40.388+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='NIV2011'/><title type='text'>NIV2011</title><content type='html'>&lt;blockquote&gt;I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you &lt;i&gt;to live in&lt;/i&gt; the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel--&lt;/blockquote&gt;This is Galatians 1:6 in NIV2011&lt;br /&gt;It is the most interesting change from the NIV/TNIV which I have seen so far. It is also different from other translations I have available.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is it an accurate rendering?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-1127513374086726205?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/1127513374086726205/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=1127513374086726205' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1127513374086726205'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1127513374086726205'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/11/niv2011.html' title='NIV2011'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-3602950894799074256</id><published>2010-11-02T11:22:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2010-11-02T11:22:24.871+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New NIV'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='NIV2011'/><title type='text'>NIV 2011</title><content type='html'>The new NIV looks good. I think that Douglas Moo and Bill Mounce being on the&lt;br /&gt;committee would have had quite a bit to do with the way it has turned out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See http://www.biblegateway.com/&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you already use this site, it may default to your preferred setting, so to&lt;br /&gt;get to the new NIV, you could start here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NIV 2011 [which will be known simply as NIV] has removed soem of the things that&lt;br /&gt;have bugged people about it, including "sinful nature" for SARX, and now it&lt;br /&gt;mostly has the old-fashioned word "flesh."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It does use inclusive language in some instances [such as frequently rendering&lt;br /&gt;ADELFOI as "brothers and sisters" where the context shows the writer is&lt;br /&gt;referring to men and women, e g Romans 1:13].&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is 95% the same as the 1984 NIV, but has been updated to reflect contemporary&lt;br /&gt;conservative scholarship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think it's looking good and hope there won't be as many whinges as there were&lt;br /&gt;about the TNIV.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I assume it is also about 95% the same as the TNIV, but I haven't read any stats&lt;br /&gt;on that yet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The translators notes, available at Bible Gateway at the above url [and you&lt;br /&gt;should download the whole shebang and not just read the snippet] are very&lt;br /&gt;interesting and worth reading in full.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-3602950894799074256?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.biblegateway.com/niv/executive-summary/' title='NIV 2011'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/3602950894799074256/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=3602950894799074256' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/3602950894799074256'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/3602950894799074256'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/11/niv-2011.html' title='NIV 2011'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-9039511029153558899</id><published>2010-10-31T13:03:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2010-10-31T13:03:11.858+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ben Crick'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='charis list'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='prayer'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Envoi'/><title type='text'>Envoi, from the 1928 Church of England Prayer Book</title><content type='html'>Ben Crick, veteran Church of England minister in Birchington, Kent posted this prayer that is said in farewell to those dying. I think it is wonderful. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Go forth upon your journey from this world, Christian soul: &lt;br /&gt;in the name of God the Father almighty who created you; &lt;br /&gt;in the name of Jesus Christ who suffered for you;&lt;br /&gt;in the name of the Holy Spirit who strengthens you: &lt;br /&gt;in communion with the blessed saints, &lt;br /&gt;and aided by angels and archangels, and all the armies of the heavenly host. Amen. May your portion this day be in peace,&lt;br /&gt;and your dwelling in the heavenly Jerusalem. Amen.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-9039511029153558899?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/9039511029153558899/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=9039511029153558899' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/9039511029153558899'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/9039511029153558899'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/10/envoi-from-1928-church-of-england.html' title='Envoi, from the 1928 Church of England Prayer Book'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-2657549820243741981</id><published>2010-10-23T17:11:00.001+11:00</published><updated>2010-10-23T17:13:56.953+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='special times'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='memories'/><title type='text'>Special memories</title><content type='html'>This article on the &lt;a href="http://www.focusonthefamily.com/"&gt;Focus on the Family&lt;/a&gt; website reminded me of a story my tax agent's wife told me one day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Do you ever wonder what memories your children will treasure when they become adults? Down the road, you may be surprised by what they recall.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Picture this scene: It is your daughter's 10th birthday. You want to make her party extra special. After all, she has told you every day for the past month that she is finally in the double digits and "no longer a child." You have plotted a surprise birthday party for weeks. You've invited her friends, bought snacks, hung pink and purple streamers, blown up balloons, spent hours meticulously decorating the cake and hired Sparkles the Clown. The guests arrive, and the party is a huge success.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Years later, as the two of you swap your favorite memories, your daughter mentions her 10th birthday. You assume she will rave about the beautiful cake and Sparkles' funny balloon animals, but instead she recalls how much fun it was to ride in the van with you to pick up doughnuts for breakfast. Not only were doughnuts a special treat, but the one-on-one time she had with you was also priceless. You sit dumbfounded and wonder what other simple memories she holds dear that you do not even remember. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We were idly chatting about the drizzling rain one day, when Mrs M told me what she and Mr M used to do when living in a small house with kids getting under their feet on a miserable day. She and Mr M would get them decked out in their wet weather gear, and take them out for a walk in the rain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Years later the kids told her that these walks were one of the special times of their childhood. What Mr and Mrs M did in desperation was something to treasure!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-2657549820243741981?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.focusonthefamily.com/parenting/building_relationships/celebrating_your_family_identity/impact_of_everyday_interactions.aspx' title='Special memories'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/2657549820243741981/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=2657549820243741981' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/2657549820243741981'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/2657549820243741981'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/10/special-memories.html' title='Special memories'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-1918235078319601713</id><published>2010-10-23T14:59:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2010-10-23T14:59:22.907+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='debating'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='disagreeing'/><title type='text'>When Writing About Those With Whom You Disagree</title><content type='html'>I got this from Ardel Caneday, who got it from Ken Keathley. I think it is something we all need to learn, especially me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;What Are The Best Ways To Engage In A Debate?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;1. Describe your opponent's position in such a way that he can recognise it.&lt;br /&gt;2. Know your opponent's position well enough that you could argue it for him.&lt;br /&gt;3. Write as if your opponent and you were going to dinner together after you finish. &lt;/blockquote&gt;Keathley concludes, "Have I followed all three rules in all of my writings? I must confess that I have not. But I want to. And by God’s grace I hope to 'love my neighbor as myself' even when I’m disagreeing with him."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-1918235078319601713?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://betweenthetimes.com/2010/10/07/when-writing-about-those-with-whom-you-disagree/' title='When Writing About Those With Whom You Disagree'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/1918235078319601713/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=1918235078319601713' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1918235078319601713'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1918235078319601713'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/10/when-writing-about-those-with-whom-you.html' title='When Writing About Those With Whom You Disagree'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-9184173872647830066</id><published>2010-10-23T13:55:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2010-10-23T13:55:22.081+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Capetown2010'/><title type='text'>Capetown 2010</title><content type='html'>Are you taking the opportunity to participate in the Third Congress on&lt;br /&gt;Evangelism and World Mission being held now in Capetown?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For those of us who can't be there, there are podcasts [audio and video, but so&lt;br /&gt;far I have only found vodcasts] available on iTunes and also at Youtube and from&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lausanne.org/cape-town-2010"&gt;The Capetown 2010 website.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the first time that such a worldwide conference can be available to so&lt;br /&gt;many people around the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm downloading and watching the vodcasts and hoping to interest folk in my&lt;br /&gt;church in doing this also.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-9184173872647830066?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.lausanne.org/cape-town-2010' title='Capetown 2010'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/9184173872647830066/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=9184173872647830066' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/9184173872647830066'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/9184173872647830066'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/10/capetown-2010.html' title='Capetown 2010'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-2633367852375648326</id><published>2010-08-10T23:09:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2010-08-10T23:09:19.656+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Open Doors'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='persecuted Christians'/><title type='text'>Pledge to be ON WATCH for Persecuted Christians</title><content type='html'>Is this something you could commit to?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;My eyes are open.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;I see&lt;/b&gt; that persecution is real.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;I acknowledge&lt;/b&gt; the basic human right to religious freedom.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;I commit&lt;/b&gt; to help open the eyes of others.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;I am on watch&lt;/b&gt; for persecuted Christians.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-2633367852375648326?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.worldwatchlist.com.au/' title='Pledge to be ON WATCH for Persecuted Christians'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/2633367852375648326/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=2633367852375648326' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/2633367852375648326'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/2633367852375648326'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/08/pledge-to-be-on-watch-for-persecuted.html' title='Pledge to be ON WATCH for Persecuted Christians'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-8124445015974763303</id><published>2010-07-30T18:34:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2010-07-30T18:35:16.482+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowland Croucher'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='friendship'/><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>I went out to find a friend&lt;br /&gt;but could not find one there...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I went out to be a friend&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and friends were everywhere!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;avagooddayeveryone!&lt;br /&gt;[unless you've made other arrangements]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rowland Croucher&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-8124445015974763303?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/8124445015974763303/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=8124445015974763303' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8124445015974763303'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8124445015974763303'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/07/i-went-out-to-fidn-friend-but-could-not.html' title=''/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-7038929631518150783</id><published>2010-07-30T07:50:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2010-07-30T07:50:00.384+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gleason Archer'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Progressive revelation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='imprecatory psalms'/><title type='text'>Gleason Archer quote on Progressive Revelation</title><content type='html'>On page 15 of this interesting article on the imprecatory psalms, there is a useful quote from Gleason Archer on Progressive Revelation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Progressive revelation is ‘not to be thought of as a progress from error to&lt;br /&gt;truth, but rather as a progress from the partial to the obscure to the complete and&lt;br /&gt;clear.’&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-7038929631518150783?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.biblecreed.com/media/imprecatorypsalmsarticle.pdf' title='Gleason Archer quote on Progressive Revelation'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/7038929631518150783/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=7038929631518150783' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7038929631518150783'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' 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scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='dying'/><title type='text'>Tough stuff</title><content type='html'>If you look over on the right, you will see some links in my shared items to articles by Denise Day Spencer. Denise has been through an incredibly hard time as she has watched her beloved husband, Michael, aka &lt;i&gt;The Internet Monk&lt;/i&gt; succumb to cancer and die, at the age of 53, just before his first book was published.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Her writings on the subject are helpful because of their frankness and honesty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;These are things most of us will be confronted with one day. It is sensible to think about them now.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-1592891462132413342?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://denisedayspencer.wordpress.com/' title='Tough stuff'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/1592891462132413342/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=1592891462132413342' title='11 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1592891462132413342'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1592891462132413342'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/06/tough-stuff.html' title='Tough stuff'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>11</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-7986475193185919039</id><published>2010-06-10T14:37:00.002+10:00</published><updated>2010-06-10T14:39:56.972+10:00</updated><title type='text'>Don’t pay for an over-priced book again</title><content type='html'>This is another of Steve Kryger's great posts.&lt;br /&gt;I used to be able to send the link to this blog, via Gontroppo's Shared Items, but you will notice that that is a heading with no content.&lt;br /&gt;Dunno why.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/communicate_jesus/%7E3/kYsNfIeZTvw/"&gt;Don’t pay for an over-priced book again&lt;/a&gt;: "&lt;div style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.communicatejesus.com%2F2010%2F06%2Fdont-pay-for-an-over-priced-book-again%2F"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.communicatejesus.com%2F2010%2F06%2Fdont-pay-for-an-over-priced-book-again%2F&amp;amp;source=communic8jesus&amp;amp;style=normal&amp;amp;service=bit.ly" height="61" width="50" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Recently I wrote ‘&lt;a title="Don't buy another bad Christian book" href="http://www.communicatejesus.com/2010/04/dont-buy-another-bad-christian-book/"&gt;Don’t buy another (bad) Christian book&lt;/a&gt;‘, with some sites to discover book reviews to avoid wasting money on a disaster. I received some helpful feedback that it can be useful to read ‘outside the camp’ – I try to do this as well, but I don’t want to waste money on something that’s just going to make me angry!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Once you’ve worked out which books you’d like to purchase, here’s a simple 4-step process for finding the cheapest store to purchase your book/s from.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Step 1.&lt;/strong&gt; Visit &lt;a title="Booko" href="http://www.booko.com.au/"&gt;Booko&lt;/a&gt;.”Booko is a site with a very simple goal – to find the cheapest place to buy books &amp;amp; DVDs in Australia.” My friend &lt;a title="Dave Irving's website" href="http://dirving.org/"&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt; put me onto it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Step 2.&lt;/strong&gt; Type in the name of the book you’re looking for. In this case, I’m looking for &lt;a title="You Can Change by Tim Chester" href="http://www.booko.com.au/books/isbn/9781844743032"&gt;‘You Can Change’ by Tim Chester&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.communicatejesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/screenshot-booko-search.png"&gt;&lt;img title="screenshot-booko-search" src="http://www.communicatejesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/screenshot-booko-search-300x42.png" alt="" height="42" width="300" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Step 3.&lt;/strong&gt; (This isn’t really a step, but more of a stage in the proces!) Booko will now list all the places online where you can purchase a book, and list the prices, in Australian dollars, including delivery:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.communicatejesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/screenshot-booko.png"&gt;&lt;img title="screenshot-booko" src="http://www.communicatejesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/screenshot-booko-300x178.png" alt="" height="178" width="300" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Step 4.&lt;/strong&gt; Select the store you would like to purchase from. &lt;a title="The Book Depository" href="http://www.bookdepository.com/"&gt;The Book Depository&lt;/a&gt; is a favourite (at least among the Bible college students I’ve spoken to!) because the shipping to Australia (from their stores in the US and UK) is free.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;I can purchase the book for $11.92 including delivery. At the time of writing, the same book was &lt;a title="You Can Change from Koorong" href="http://orders.koorong.com/search/product/view.jhtml?code=9781844743032"&gt;$12.95 from Koorong&lt;/a&gt; (plus $5.95 for shipping), and &lt;a title="You Can Change from Moore Books" href="http://www.moorebooks.com.au/?page=shop/flypage&amp;amp;product_id=8865047&amp;amp;keyword=you+can+change&amp;amp;searchby=title&amp;amp;offset=0&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;CLSN_1518=12716611141518cfa435943477177580"&gt;$14.95 from Moore Books&lt;/a&gt; (I’m unsure about shipping costs/availbility). From $1.03 to $3.03 per book (without any of the costs of travel to and from the bookshop), that’s a significant saving.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Copyright 2010 Steven Kryger.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Post from: &lt;a href="http://communicatejesus.com/"&gt;Communicate Jesus&lt;/a&gt;. Follow Communicate Jesus on &lt;a href="http://www.twitter.com/communic8jesus"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.communicatejesus.com/2010/06/dont-pay-for-an-over-priced-book-again/"&gt;Don’t pay for an over-priced book again&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Er/communicate_jesus/%7E4/kYsNfIeZTvw" height="1" width="1" /&gt;"&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-7986475193185919039?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/communicate_jesus/~3/kYsNfIeZTvw/' title='Don’t pay for an over-priced book again'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/7986475193185919039/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=7986475193185919039' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7986475193185919039'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7986475193185919039'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/06/dont-pay-for-over-priced-book-again.html' title='Don’t pay for an over-priced book again'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-8053111734543336144</id><published>2010-06-09T15:05:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2010-06-09T15:05:30.933+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Creation and Evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='James Anderson'/><title type='text'>Reconciling Contemporary Science and The Bible</title><content type='html'>Is it possible to reconcile contemporary science and the Bible?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems to me that many Christians today begin with modern scientific presuppositions and then attempt to squeeze the Bible into those presuppositions. But doing so seems to be giving too much away.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Others begin with the Bible and then try to squeeze science into the Scriptures. I think that they then make the Bible to be saying more than it really is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;James Anderson has written a thoughtful review of a book by one of the former, entitled &lt;a href="http://proginosko.wordpress.com/2010/06/07/i-love-jesus-i-accept-evolution/#comment-284"&gt;I Love Jesus and I Accept Evolution&lt;/a&gt; .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And he gave me the link to this most interesting summation by continuing Presbyterians [PCA] called&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.pcahistory.org/creation/report.html"&gt;Creation Report&lt;/a&gt; .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is well worth reading, though it may not convince many.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-8053111734543336144?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.pcahistory.org/creation/report.html' title='Reconciling Contemporary Science and The Bible'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/8053111734543336144/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=8053111734543336144' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8053111734543336144'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8053111734543336144'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/06/reconciling-contemporary-science-and.html' title='Reconciling Contemporary Science and The Bible'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-2242402684986658839</id><published>2010-05-31T14:44:00.003+10:00</published><updated>2010-05-31T14:50:55.380+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Meaning of The Pentateuch'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Sailhamer'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Contemporary English Version'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ESV Study Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Robert Culver'/><title type='text'>current reading projects</title><content type='html'>I'm continuing to plow through &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Contemporary English Version&lt;/span&gt;. Today I completed Deuteronomy, and thus The Pentateuch. It is enjoyable to read through such a simple version quickly, having been taking the slow road in the ESV Study Bible for over a year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At times the CEV is disappointing, because it sometimes takes a rather peculiar line and often it knocks off the edges of the biblical language, in an effort to make it contemporary and comprehensible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am also reading through John Sailhamer's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Meaning of the Pentateuch&lt;/span&gt; and am pleased to have reached the half-way mark. It is a great book, though longer than it needs to be and very repetitive. But it is a stimulating book to ponder.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And a few days ago I began Robert Culver's Systematic Theology. This is worth reading, but over 1100 pages. I am aiming to read about 20 per day, so that I can get through it in about 4 months. I haven't been good at keeping up such projects previously, though I am on my 9th read-through of Holy Scripture.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-2242402684986658839?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/2242402684986658839/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=2242402684986658839' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/2242402684986658839'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/2242402684986658839'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/05/current-reading-projects.html' title='current reading projects'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-2323051945581798455</id><published>2010-05-28T14:24:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2010-05-28T14:24:12.940+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='grandchildren'/><title type='text'>New arrival</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6DoH07rdIbY/S_9FFo8IlxI/AAAAAAAAAHI/cUFWJMUl5oc/s1600/hilary30min.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6DoH07rdIbY/S_9FFo8IlxI/AAAAAAAAAHI/cUFWJMUl5oc/s320/hilary30min.jpg" width="240" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;This is my new granddaughter, Hilary. We now have three sons and a daughter, and three grandsons and a granddaughter.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-2323051945581798455?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/2323051945581798455/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=2323051945581798455' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/2323051945581798455'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/2323051945581798455'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/05/new-arrival.html' title='New arrival'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6DoH07rdIbY/S_9FFo8IlxI/AAAAAAAAAHI/cUFWJMUl5oc/s72-c/hilary30min.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-761396430870320056</id><published>2010-05-27T10:12:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2010-05-27T10:12:40.698+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Wayne Grudem'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='T C Hammond'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Sailhamer'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bruce Milne'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='theology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Calvin'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Robert Culver'/><title type='text'>Theology books</title><content type='html'>What theological books do you recommend, folks? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've just purchased Robert Culver's Systematic Theology. I've read bits and pieces of books on theology, but have not read through a whole systematic theology, though I've read a good portion of Wayne Grudem's book.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What I like about Grudem is that his basic outlook seems biblical, but also he writes in a style that is easy to read. For some reason, writers of theology often write in technical language, seemingly of their own invention.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I did read Book One of Calvin's Institutes having intended to read the whole shebang, but ended up foundering in his discussion of the law in Book 2.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Years ago I read Berkhof's Summary of Christian Doctrine and  T C Hammond's "In Understanding Be Men." [The very title sounds outmoded now.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also read Bruce Milne's "Know the Truth."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The internet can be a trap. I tend to surf and read bits and pieces here and there, and read less of books. But I'm aiming to change that and at the moment I'm wading through John Sailhamer's The Meaning of the Pentateuch. It is well worth reading, but I think the 600 pages could have been compressed to about 300 or maybe even 200. It is extremely repetitive, but what he has to say makes you think about how the Bible was put together, the meaning of the Old Testament and the Pentateuch in particular and many other things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A Reader's Digest condensed version would be appreciated and could be done without taking away at all from what he says.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-761396430870320056?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/761396430870320056/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=761396430870320056' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/761396430870320056'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/761396430870320056'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/05/theology-books.html' title='Theology books'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-939127094281219215</id><published>2010-05-26T23:15:00.003+10:00</published><updated>2010-05-26T23:35:54.584+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='David Field'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Frame'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lying'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ethics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='SBS'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Insight'/><title type='text'>Lying</title><content type='html'>Last night I watched a discussion on the SBS Insight program about Scripture in Schools versus the new Ethics classes which are being trialled as an alternative to Special Religious Education [the proper name for Scripture].&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Part of the program showed some children in an ethics class talking about why people lie. They were given some interesting scenarios, but nobody admitted to the main reason that I lie. I'm wondering if I'm different from other people, or just an especially bad person.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The children talked about lying so that you wouldn't hurt someone else's feelings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The main reasons I lie are to get myself out of trouble and because I'm trying to avoid feeling uncomfortable by saying something that another person or myself may find confronting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is anybody else like this?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I previously posted an article about &lt;a href="http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/search?q=lying"&gt;lying&lt;/a&gt;, in which David Field adapts an article by John Frame.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately the article was copied badly and the Bible references went widdershins. I hope to rectify this shortly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In that article, it was argued that lying is sometimes the lesser of two evils and sometimes necessary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But in a most interesting article in the ESV Study Bible, it is argued that since the Bible teaches us that God cannot lie, and that Jesus was sinless, we cannot imagine that he ever told a lie.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If Jesus was tempted in every way as we are, yet he didn't sin, it is unthinkable that he would have lied. If this is so, it is not right to argue that it is sometimes acceptable for Christians to lie.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even if you accept the argument of the Field-Frame article, the reasons we usually lie [I think] are less than noble and it is usually done to save our own skin. [Unless of course I'm a one-off in this area. Some would argue I'm a one-off in many areas...]&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-939127094281219215?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/939127094281219215/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=939127094281219215' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/939127094281219215'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/939127094281219215'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/05/lying.html' title='Lying'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-7170573192950104792</id><published>2010-05-23T17:14:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2010-05-23T17:23:08.834+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='substitutionary atonement'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Horatius Bonar'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='atonement'/><title type='text'>from Michael Kellahan</title><content type='html'>Upon a life I did not live&lt;br /&gt;Upon a death I did not die&lt;br /&gt;Another's life, another's death&lt;br /&gt;On this I stake my whole eternity&lt;br /&gt;Horatius Bonar&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-7170573192950104792?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/7170573192950104792/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=7170573192950104792' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7170573192950104792'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7170573192950104792'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/05/from-michael-kellahan.html' title='from Michael Kellahan'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-7370975550438951419</id><published>2010-05-23T15:33:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2010-05-23T15:33:07.096+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='belonging'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='whingeing'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='work'/><title type='text'>Why Do People Whinge At Work?</title><content type='html'>In Saturday's My Career [which I read in the Sydney Morning Herald], Marcella Bidinost reminds us that how our work colleagues act upon their feelings can affect our own moods. Even if some people have a spark, it can be washed out if the rest of the group is negative.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the most interesting points in the article is about research into why people whinge so much at work. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bidinost cites resilience expert, Michael Licenblat's observation that&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;People ultimately want to belong. We often unite in pain, misery and struggle. People create whinge centres to achieve a sense of belonging&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But we can also unite around what we do enjoy about the place where we work. Licenblat suggests that &lt;blockquote&gt;If you notice you're being negative, focus on the things that are working. &lt;br /&gt;If you or others are complaining a lot, introduce a complaint-free phase. &lt;br /&gt;Set a time, even for an hour each day, when you consciously choose not to find fault.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-7370975550438951419?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/7370975550438951419/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=7370975550438951419' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7370975550438951419'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7370975550438951419'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/05/why-do-people-whinge-at-work.html' title='Why Do People Whinge At Work?'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-78570200812946262</id><published>2010-05-22T12:43:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2010-05-22T12:57:04.099+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tim Keller'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Grace'/><title type='text'>Gospel versus Religion</title><content type='html'>Tim Keller gives these helpful contrasts between the message of Jesus and religion.&lt;br /&gt;It comes from his new DVD and book &lt;i&gt;gospel in life: Grace Changes Everything&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Acceptance&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * Religion: “I obey; therefore, I’m accepted.”&lt;br /&gt;    * Gospel: “I’m accepted; therefore, I obey.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Motivation&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * Religion: Motivation is based on fear and insecurity.&lt;br /&gt;    * Gospel: Motivation is based on grateful joy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Obedience&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * Religion: I obey God in order to get things from God.&lt;br /&gt;    * Gospel: I obey God to get God – to delight in and resemble him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Circumstances&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * Religion: When circumstances in my life go wrong, I am angry at God or myself, since I believe that anyone who is good deserves a comfortable life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * Gospel: When circumstances in my life go wrong, I struggle, but I know my punishment fell on Jesus and that while God may allow this for my training, he will exercise his Fatherly love within my trial.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Criticism&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * Religion: When I am criticized, I am furious or devastated because it is critical that I think of myself as a “good person.” &lt;br /&gt;Threats to self-image must be destroyed at all costs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * Gospel: When I am criticized, I struggle, but it is not essential for me to think of myself as a “good person.”&lt;br /&gt;My identity is not built on my record or my performance but on God’s love for me in Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Prayer&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * Religion: My prayer life consists largely of petition, and it only heats up when I am in a time of need. My main purpose in prayer is control of the environment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * Gospel: My prayer life consists of generous stretches of praise and adoration. &lt;br /&gt;My main purpose is fellowship with God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Confidence&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * Religion: My self-view swings things between two poles. &lt;br /&gt;If and when I am living up to my standards, I feel confident, but then I am prone to be proud and unsympathetic to failing people. &lt;br /&gt;If and when I am not living up to standards, I feel humble but not confident – I feel like a failure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * Gospel: My self-view is not based on my moral achievement. &lt;br /&gt;In Christ I am &lt;i&gt;simul iustus et peccator&lt;/i&gt; –simultaneously sinful and lost, yet accepted in Christ. &lt;br /&gt;I am so bad that he had to die for me, and I am so loved that he was glad to die for me. &lt;br /&gt;This leads me to deep humility and confidence at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Identity&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * Religion: My identity and self-worth are based mainly on how hard I work, or how moral I am – and so I must look down on those I perceive as lazy or immoral.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * Gospel: My identity and self worth are centered on the One who died for me. &lt;br /&gt;I am saved by sheer grace and I can’t look down on those who believe or practise something different from me. &lt;br /&gt;Only by grace am I what I am.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;HT: http://jonosmith.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-78570200812946262?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://jonosmith.com' title='Gospel versus Religion'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/78570200812946262/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=78570200812946262' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/78570200812946262'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/78570200812946262'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/05/gospel-versus-religion.html' title='Gospel versus Religion'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-6687471909432958020</id><published>2010-05-17T09:56:00.002+10:00</published><updated>2010-05-17T10:03:29.084+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jerome'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='grandchildren'/><title type='text'>Jerome and Me</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6DoH07rdIbY/S_CHMAcs80I/AAAAAAAAAHA/9TU4sdwMzF8/s1600/David+and+Jerome.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 300px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6DoH07rdIbY/S_CHMAcs80I/AAAAAAAAAHA/9TU4sdwMzF8/s400/David+and+Jerome.JPG" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5472022187603718978" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;This is a photo of me with my first grandchild, Jerome, born 6th May, 2005.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-6687471909432958020?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/6687471909432958020/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=6687471909432958020' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6687471909432958020'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6687471909432958020'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/05/jerome-and-me.html' title='Jerome and Me'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6DoH07rdIbY/S_CHMAcs80I/AAAAAAAAAHA/9TU4sdwMzF8/s72-c/David+and+Jerome.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-5176428258142435661</id><published>2010-05-14T15:15:00.003+10:00</published><updated>2010-05-14T15:21:50.625+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Meaning of The Pentateuch'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Old Testament'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Sailhamer'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pentateuch'/><title type='text'>The Meaning of The Pentateuch</title><content type='html'>I'm reading through John Sailhamer's The Meaning of the Pentateuch, after&lt;br /&gt;reading so many good comments about it. It is every bit as good as I had been&lt;br /&gt;told. The author has spent a lifetime thinking and writing about the Old&lt;br /&gt;Testament and the Pentateuch in particular.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I assume that the Google Books link will include some of the book, but probably not all. The cheapest place I've found for the book [after buying it for $50 Australian from my local Christian bookstore, where I was able to have a good look at it] is &lt;a href="http://www.bookdepository.com/book/9780830838677/The-Meaning-of-the-Pentateuch"&gt;The Book Depository&lt;/a&gt;, which lists it for $33 Australian.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sailhamer deals with a lot more than the meaning of the pentateuch in his book, and writes in an easy style that gets me intrigued.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Warmly recommended.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;David McKay&lt;br /&gt;www.gontroppo.blogspot.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-5176428258142435661?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://books.google.com.au/books?id=pBVWU9U85m0C&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=the+meaning+of+the+pentateuch&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=N6Nc8BpApq&amp;sig=ZTWrBRTi6tB7rZaVTgCrtD2gN-U&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=ttzsS7-LOY_u6APqsbisDw&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=6&amp;ved=0CDgQ6AEwBQ#v=on' title='The Meaning of The Pentateuch'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/5176428258142435661/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=5176428258142435661' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/5176428258142435661'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/5176428258142435661'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/05/meaning-of-pentateuch.html' title='The Meaning of The Pentateuch'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-1688556536415296557</id><published>2010-05-13T09:29:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2010-05-13T09:30:03.771+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Elihu'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='literal translation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='TNIV'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='King James Version'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ESV'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='dynamic equivalence'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Contemporary English Version'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New English Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New Bible Commentary'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Job'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New Dictionary of Biblical Theology'/><title type='text'>Elihu</title><content type='html'>I have just read through The Book of Job for the 9th time, this time in the Contemporary English Version. My copy is supposed to be an Australian edition and was published by The Indonesian Bible Society. Here and there, the language sounds American, not Australian, though. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I always puzzle over Elihu and read some interesting stuff this morning in The New Dictionary of Biblical Theology and also in The New Bible Commentary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Clines, who wrote the NBC article, says that Elihu's words in Job 32:2 should read, with the New English Bible, New Living Translation and Contemporary English Version that Job was making himself out to be more righteous than God, and not that he was justifying himself rather than God, as appears in the KJV, NIV, TNIV and ESV.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sounds like the supposedly looser translations are closer to the truth here than the supposedly more literal translations ... again.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-1688556536415296557?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/1688556536415296557/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=1688556536415296557' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1688556536415296557'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1688556536415296557'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/05/elihu.html' title='Elihu'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-6251405935365524285</id><published>2010-05-09T17:42:00.008+10:00</published><updated>2010-05-09T18:25:34.673+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ardel Caneday'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Race Set Before Us'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='assurance'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='perseverance'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tom Schreiner'/><title type='text'>Run To Win The Prize</title><content type='html'>For several years I have recommended Schreiner and Caneday's &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;The Race Set Before Us&lt;/span&gt; as the best treatment of the Bible's teaching on assurance and perseverance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Contrary to what others say, I don't think it is an easy topic to come to grips&lt;br /&gt;with, if we are going to be faithful to all the Bible's data.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some Christians emphasise that God promises salvation to all who believe, but do not account for the many passages which urge us to persevere, threatening us with God's judgment if we don't.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Other Christians notice all the passages that say that only those who endure to&lt;br /&gt;the end will be saved, and that God will judge us according to our works, and so&lt;br /&gt;emphasise continuing to follow Christ, but do not account for the many glorious promises that when we believe in Christ, our salvation is certain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A few Christians try to factor both in, and so teach that our salvation is&lt;br /&gt;certain AND that we must persevere.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I thought the best treatment of this was in Caneday and Schreiner's The Race Set Before Us, but it is rather long and unfortunately I'm not so sure that everyone will &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;endure to the end&lt;/span&gt; of it!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But now, Tom Schreiner has produced &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Run To Win The Prize&lt;/span&gt;, a shorter, more popular treatment of the topic,  in which he responds to concerns of those who read the earlier book and seeks to provide a fresh and different angle to the questions explored.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've already ordered my copy and look forward to being able to share this shorter book more enthusiastically with others.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-6251405935365524285?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.bookdepository.com/book/9781844743698/Run-to-Win-the-Prize' title='Run To Win The Prize'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/6251405935365524285/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=6251405935365524285' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6251405935365524285'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6251405935365524285'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/05/run-to-win-prize.html' title='Run To Win The Prize'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-8414926059305234737</id><published>2010-05-09T17:25:00.002+10:00</published><updated>2010-05-10T10:25:42.589+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Reading The Bible With The Dead'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='church history'/><title type='text'>Reading The Bible With The Dead</title><content type='html'>John Thompson's intriguing title got me perusing and then buying this book yesterday. I later discovered it could be purchased for a considerably cheaper price through the terrific &lt;a href="http://www.bookdepository.com/book/9780802807533/Reading-the-Bible-with-the-Dead"&gt;Book Depository&lt;/a&gt;. But I don't think it's fair to use the local bookstore to choose a book and then purchase it elsewhere; at least, not fair when the shop is struggling and has to use volunteers to keep afloat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You will also notice that the title links you to Google Books, which gives you a generous amount of the book free of charge! But I think I will read more of the book with a codex to handle, rather than squinting at the computer screen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thompson has provided us with a book about how the church has handled important but difficult parts of the Bible. I'm not endorsing Thompson's conclusions, but I do applaud his advice about getting to know what earlier Christians thought and did.&lt;br /&gt;We aren't the first people to be shocked by the story of Jephtha sacrificing his only daughter, he says. How did others deal with this difficult story?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The Bible is better read and preached when the legacy of traditional interpretation is taken into account, so that the faithful interpreters of the past can guide and challenge readers and hearers today. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you would like to dip into what he says in his book, you may find that &lt;a href="http://documents.fuller.edu/sot/faculty/thompson_john/HistExeg/"&gt;this website&lt;/a&gt; will whet your appetite.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-8414926059305234737?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://tinyurl.com/26tzubg' title='Reading The Bible With The Dead'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/8414926059305234737/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=8414926059305234737' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8414926059305234737'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8414926059305234737'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/05/reading-bible-with-dead.html' title='Reading The Bible With The Dead'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-4311061370412476648</id><published>2010-05-07T12:25:00.001+10:00</published><updated>2010-05-07T12:26:19.698+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='King James Version'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2011 trust'/><title type='text'>2011 Trust</title><content type='html'>I've been enjoying the great resources at 2011 Trust this morning.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These include Patricia Routledge doing a magnificent rendition of John 20, in which she captures every nuance, Richard Dawkins speaking about why he supports the King James Bible 2011 project and also reading from Song of Songs chapter 2 [and can't resist making his own commentary ...]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You are invited to join in and read a chapter, bung it on Youtube and then maybe be selected to be one of the 1189 chapters in the 2011 trust's Youtube Bible. I hope to have a crack. Will you?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't think you'd ever find &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/2011trust"&gt;The 2011 Youtube channel&lt;/a&gt; without knowing its url, because Youtube has so many hits on "KJV Bible." And a lot of garbage!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-4311061370412476648?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.2011trust.org' title='2011 Trust'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/4311061370412476648/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=4311061370412476648' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/4311061370412476648'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/4311061370412476648'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/05/ive-been-enjoying-great-resources-at.html' title='2011 Trust'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-1344357785492348462</id><published>2010-05-01T23:07:00.002+10:00</published><updated>2010-05-01T23:09:11.674+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Stott'/><title type='text'>The future of books</title><content type='html'>Mark Meynell's review of John Stott's &lt;i&gt;The Radical Disciple&lt;/i&gt; is an excellent summary and shows the high regard Mark has for Uncle John, as I see we are now calling him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I wanted to post here Stott's observations about the future of books:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;John Stott, Christian statesman, writes at the conclusion of his 51st book, in a poignant farewell note to his readers:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Looking ahead, none of us of course knows what the future of printing and publishing may be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I myself am confident that the future of books is assured and that, though they will be complemented, they will never be altogether replaced.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For there is something unique about books. Our favourite books become very precious to us and we even develop with them an almost living and affectionate relationship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So let me urge you to keep reading, and encourage your relatives and friends to do the same. For this is a much-neglected means of grace.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-1344357785492348462?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://markmeynell.wordpress.com/2010/01/22/uncle-johns-farewell-an-inescapable-call-to-be-radical/#comment-9648' title='The future of books'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/1344357785492348462/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=1344357785492348462' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1344357785492348462'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1344357785492348462'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/05/future-of-books.html' title='The future of books'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-8129306609168163628</id><published>2010-04-30T09:07:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2010-04-30T09:07:24.626+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='TNIV'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ESV'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible reading'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Good News Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New Living Translation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Books of the Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New Jerusalem Bible'/><title type='text'>Reading through the Bible.</title><content type='html'>Which versions of the Bible have you read? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Over the past 5 years, I have enjoyed reading through the TNIV [twice, which includes "The Books of the Bible: a presentation of Today's New International Version"], the Zondervan NIV Archaeological Study Bible, the New Living Translation [2nd edition], The ESV Reformation Study Bible, The Good News Bible, Australian edition [which is so far the one with the most typos], the New Jerusalem Bible [I began reading the study notes, but they were so liberal, I quit the notes] and the ESV Study Bible [completed yesterday].&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today I've commenced reading through the Contemporary English Version, Australian edition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This usually takes me about 5 months, but the last one was a massive undertaking, due to all the articles, introductions and notes. I began reading the ESVSB on 3rd Jan 09, and was going quite slowly for a while.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is a great blessing to be able to read through and get an overview fairly quickly. You can do this by reading a psalm a day, anotehr 4 chapters of the Old Testament and 2 chapters of the New Testament, to keep things proportional.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This all started when a man in our church brought us a guide to reading through the New Testament in 91 days, which was intended to get folk reading through the New Testament before Christmas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Only a few people took up the offer, but I got hooked!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you think it is too much to expect the average Christian to read through the Bible? Not many people of my acquaintance seem to do it. We read the Bible, but we read the same passages over and over. We read soem of the New Testament, some of the Psalms and not much of the rest of the Old Testament.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you think God should have got J K Rowling to write the text to make it an easier read?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-8129306609168163628?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/8129306609168163628/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=8129306609168163628' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8129306609168163628'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8129306609168163628'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/04/reading-through-bible.html' title='Reading through the Bible.'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-6474506997089960565</id><published>2010-04-29T07:29:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2010-04-29T07:29:18.638+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ESV Study Bible'/><title type='text'>Done</title><content type='html'>This morning I finished my read-through of the ESV Study Bible, which I began on 3rd January, 2009. It is a thick book, with over 250 pages of articles, in addition to the introductions and notes on the 39 Old Testament books and the 27 in the New Testament.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have enjoyed using a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet to track my progress, and to keep my reading of the Old Testament, Psalms and the New Testament proportional. I found that I needed to read 4 chapters of the Old Testament [including a psalm] for every chapter of the New Testament, because the Old Testament has 929 chapters, there are 150 psalms, but only 260 chapters in the NT.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It has been a wonderful journey and would be richly rewarding to anyone who is willing to allocate the time. I did it by reading for half an hour to an hour for most mornings of the past 15 months.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The highlight [of many] has been Jack Collins stimulating introduction and notes on the Psalms. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For my next project, which I've already begun, I am reading through Psalms in Hebrew and the New Testament in Greek. Don't take this to mean I can understand it all, but I can understand some and find that reading is a great way of improving my feeble grasp of the Bible languages.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-6474506997089960565?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.esvstudybible.org/' title='Done'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/6474506997089960565/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=6474506997089960565' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6474506997089960565'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6474506997089960565'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/04/done.html' title='Done'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-195866432320523314</id><published>2010-04-23T14:57:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T14:57:40.323+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Kevin DeYoung'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Phil Johnson'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='impassibility'/><title type='text'>Kevin has won me over</title><content type='html'>We're not talking Kevin 07. Kevin DeYoung, I mean. His article, &lt;b&gt;Tis Mystery All, the Immortal Dies: Why the Gospel of Christ’s Suffering is More Glorious Because God Does Not Suffer&lt;/b&gt;, has convinced me that [mutter, mutter ... wash my mouth out with soap] &lt;i&gt;impassibility&lt;/i&gt; is biblical. But I wish there were another word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There really isn't an appropriate synonym and the word is so easily misunderstood.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;DeYoung says it means that God &lt;blockquote&gt;cannot suffer and is incapable of being acted upon by an external force.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This teaching is based on the Bible's assertion that God is unchangeable and sovereign. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;DeYoung carefully articulates it so that it doesn't make God out to be passive, uncaring or unresponsive to our needs. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although the idea that God suffers is popular today, he points out that if God is changeable, this means that he is not dependable and can't be trusted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is well worth reading the whole article, typos and all, to appreciate the point and value of this teaching. Phil Johnson's article &lt;a href="http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/articles/impassib.htm"&gt;God without mood swings&lt;/a&gt; is also worth chewing over.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I found it hard to swallow this teaching at first, because those who were arguing for it presented little Scripture in support and seemed to be explaining away large tracts of Scripture that didn't fit with the teaching. But DeYoung doesn't do that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for helping me to understand what everyone else was going on about, Kev.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-195866432320523314?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/files/2010/04/T4G-2010-KDY-v_2.pdf' title='Kevin has won me over'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/195866432320523314/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=195866432320523314' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/195866432320523314'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/195866432320523314'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/04/kevin-has-won-me-over.html' title='Kevin has won me over'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-3754308045844952246</id><published>2010-04-17T23:17:00.003+10:00</published><updated>2010-04-17T23:26:16.158+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Michael Spencer'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Internet Monk'/><title type='text'>Vale, Internet Monk</title><content type='html'>For the whole time that I have been online, I have enjoyed reading Michael Spencer's interesting and thought-provoking posts. This is about 14 years. Michael called himself The Internet Monk. He wrote about all kinds of issues. He was honest and rubbed some folk the wrong way. But you always knew his heart was in the right place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't know why it has taken so long to find out about his passing on 5th April. I saw it in a brief statement by Frank Turk, which he had posted on 6th April, but which I only just spotted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Michael had a battle with cancer and from 22nd February was unable to continue his internet ministry. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some folk had silly fights with Michael when he didn't dot all the required &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;"i"&lt;/span&gt;s and cross the requisite number of &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;"t"&lt;/span&gt;s. Almost all of those squabbles were completely unnecessary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I miss Michael very much.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is good to see that his site is going to be maintained. It's well worth checking it out.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-3754308045844952246?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.internetmonk.com/' title='Vale, Internet Monk'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/3754308045844952246/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=3754308045844952246' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/3754308045844952246'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/3754308045844952246'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/04/vale-internet-monk.html' title='Vale, Internet Monk'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-6235350678887484729</id><published>2010-04-13T18:08:00.003+10:00</published><updated>2010-04-13T18:14:12.787+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evangelism'/><title type='text'>The Great Omission</title><content type='html'>Thom Rainer says that if we want people to come to faith in Christ, we need  evangelists in our churches. What is an evangelist like? He says they have seven characteristics:&lt;blockquote&gt;1. They are people of prayer. They realize that only God can convict and convert, and they are totally dependent upon Him in prayer. Most of the highly evangelistic Christians spend at least an hour in prayer each day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. They have a theology that compels them to evangelize. They believe in the urgency of the gospel message. They believe that Christ is the only way of salvation. They believe that anyone without Christ is doomed for a literal hell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. They are people who spend time in the Word. The more time they spend in the Bible, the more likely they are to see the lostness of humanity and the love of God in Christ to save those who are lost.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. They are compassionate people. Their hearts break for those who don’t have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. They have learned to love the world by becoming more like Christ who has the greatest love for the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. They love the communities where God has placed them. They are immersed in the culture because they desire for the light of Christ to shine through them in their communities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. They are intentional about evangelism. They pray for opportunities to share the gospel. They look for those opportunities. And they see many so-called casual encounters as appointments set by God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7. They are accountable to someone for their evangelistic activities. They know that many good activities can replace Great Commission activities if they are not careful. Good can replace the best. So they make certain that someone holds them accountable each week, either formally or informally, for their evangelistic efforts.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which means I've got a long way to go. How about you?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-6235350678887484729?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.thomrainer.com/2010/03/seven-characteristics-of-highly-evangelistic-christians.php' title='The Great Omission'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/6235350678887484729/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=6235350678887484729' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6235350678887484729'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6235350678887484729'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/04/great-omission.html' title='The Great Omission'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-7781967804574031296</id><published>2010-04-09T14:43:00.000+10:00</published><updated>2010-04-09T14:43:40.646+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Deaf Video'/><title type='text'>Do You Hear What I Hear?</title><content type='html'>This article shows how little we know and how much there is to do in reaching deaf people with the gospel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The deaf are virtually an 'unreached people group,' but an Illinois ministry is remedying that one video at a time.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Highly recommended.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-7781967804574031296?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2010/march/30.46.html' title='Do You Hear What I Hear?'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/7781967804574031296/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=7781967804574031296' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7781967804574031296'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7781967804574031296'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/04/do-you-hear-what-i-hear.html' title='Do You Hear What I Hear?'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-5499133426944911483</id><published>2010-04-03T14:50:00.003+11:00</published><updated>2010-04-03T15:01:30.099+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homework'/><title type='text'>The downside</title><content type='html'>Every other student in the class seemed to get the idea, but when the quite intelligent Harold handed in his assignment, he hadn't done what I had asked, so I sent him home to do the music assignment again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He returned with it next week, but his essay still wasn't answering the question. I felt sorry for him and, in talking with him, felt sure that he knew what was required and couldn't figure out why he wasn't showing that he understood in what he was handing in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But, third time lucky! At last!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A few days later, I think I found out why it took Harold three times to do an assignment that everyone else did properly the first time. Because when I went to the local library, there were Harold and his sister and mother. Mum was seated at a table with a collection of books, looking very serious. Every so often, she would send Harold and Jemima off to the shelves to get some more books. She looked like she was working hard at doing some library research. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I surmised that the kids would take their homework to Mum, who would supervise them very closely, if not actually do the assignments herself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Harold was every bit as smart as I had thought. He always took things seriously in class, contributed to discussions and was up with the rest of the class. But when he went home, Mum would take over. She would tell him how to do the assignments and he would have to comply.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Having Mum in charge of the homework might often produce a good result, but there is sometimes a downside ...&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-5499133426944911483?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/5499133426944911483/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=5499133426944911483' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/5499133426944911483'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/5499133426944911483'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/04/downside.html' title='The downside'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-4434041589103747490</id><published>2010-04-03T11:31:00.005+11:00</published><updated>2010-04-16T08:33:28.362+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sydney Morning Herald'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homework'/><title type='text'>I fall down - but I get up again</title><content type='html'>Two really good articles in today's Sydney Morning Herald stress the importance of allowing children to make their own mistakes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In her article &lt;a href="http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/helicopter-parents-not-doing-enough-to-let-children-fail-20100402-rjxy.html"&gt;Helicopter Parents Not Doing Enough To Let Children Fail&lt;/a&gt;, Anna Patty refers to Rod Kefford, headmaster of Barker College's comment that &lt;blockquote&gt;In some ways self-esteem has been the most damaging educational concept that has ever been conceived. &lt;br /&gt;It is only through our failings in the learning process that we learn anything. &lt;br /&gt;He said schools needed to give children the confidence to risk failure to encourage more creative thinking.&lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In &lt;a href="http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/learning-from-failure-provides-valuable-lesson-20100402-rjy9.html"&gt;the other article&lt;/a&gt;, Jean Twenge, a professor of psychology at San Diego State University, says &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Making mistakes and having them gently corrected is one of the best ways to learn. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Twenge, who co-wrote The Narcissism Epidemic, says parents should tell their children that they love them instead of saying &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;you're special&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;you can be anything you want to be.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Feeling special often means the expectation of special treatment. Your parents might think you're special, but the rest of the world might not. This can be a difficult adjustment, especially in the workplace.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In my second stint as a classroom teacher, [from 1983-99] I noticed that parents were now doing their kids' homework. Students were coming to school with intricate models of cathedrals that they could not possibly have made themselves. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This bothered me, because I knew that if I ever felt the inclination to do my kids' homework [and I never did], I would not measure up. I also wondered why history students were making models and not reading and writing [which was what attracted me to being a Modern History student in my days at school].&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also discovered that even Christians felt it was ethical to do their children's home work for them. In one case, a parent who was also a church worker,  would sit at the computer and write the assignment, but every so often, allow his daughter to make a suggestion!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Strange days! Most peculiar, Momma!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-4434041589103747490?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/learning-from-failure-provides-valuable-lesson-20100402-rjy9.html' title='I fall down - but I get up again'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/4434041589103747490/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=4434041589103747490' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/4434041589103747490'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/4434041589103747490'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/04/i-fall-down-but-i-get-up-again.html' title='I fall down - but I get up again'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-6588269353388929588</id><published>2010-03-28T22:11:00.001+11:00</published><updated>2010-03-28T22:14:15.356+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='resurrection'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='N T Wright'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Adrian Warnock'/><title type='text'>Did Jesus really rise from the dead?</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="640" height="385"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/W0Dc01HVlaM&amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;hl=en_US&amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/W0Dc01HVlaM&amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;hl=en_US&amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I got this great clip from Adrian Warnock's website&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-6588269353388929588?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://adrianwarnock.com/2010/03/n-t-wright-says-it-right/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AdrianWarnocksUkEvangelicalBlog+%28adrianwarnock.com%29' title='Did Jesus really rise from the dead?'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/6588269353388929588/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=6588269353388929588' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6588269353388929588'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6588269353388929588'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/03/did-jesus-really-rise-from-dead.html' title='Did Jesus really rise from the dead?'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-7619402545063565991</id><published>2010-03-25T23:38:00.004+11:00</published><updated>2010-03-25T23:43:03.665+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Daniel McKay'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='guitar'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='family'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ukulele'/><title type='text'>Like father, like son</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6DoH07rdIbY/S6tZbA0gEpI/AAAAAAAAAG4/UM-93Cr9LP0/s1600/reggie%27s+axe.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 300px; height: 400px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6DoH07rdIbY/S6tZbA0gEpI/AAAAAAAAAG4/UM-93Cr9LP0/s400/reggie%27s+axe.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5452550094473663122" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is our youngest grandson, Reggie. He is the son of our first child Daniel and his wife Louise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reggie "went beserk" for this ukulele today, we're told. He didn't put it down for a whole hour. He got Mummy to play it and Daddy, too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our children all love Music as we do, and their children seem to be loving Music, too.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-7619402545063565991?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.danmckay.net/bio.htm' title='Like father, like son'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/7619402545063565991/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=7619402545063565991' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7619402545063565991'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7619402545063565991'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/03/like-father-like-son.html' title='Like father, like son'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6DoH07rdIbY/S6tZbA0gEpI/AAAAAAAAAG4/UM-93Cr9LP0/s72-c/reggie%27s+axe.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-7027388585094071679</id><published>2010-03-23T22:58:00.003+11:00</published><updated>2010-04-09T14:46:53.163+10:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tolerance'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='religion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='intolerance'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Richard Dawkins'/><title type='text'>Dawkins preaches to the deluded against the divine</title><content type='html'>I like this observation by Melanie Phillips:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;For someone who has made a career out of telling everyone how much more tolerant the world would be if only religion were obliterated from the human psyche, Dawkins manages to appear remarkably intolerant towards anyone who disagrees with him.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She goes on to say that Dawkins has become &lt;blockquote&gt;the apostle of scientism, the ideology that says everything in the universe has a materialist explanation and must answer to the rules of empirical scientific evidence; to believe anything else is irrational.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A second's thought tells one this is absurd. Love, law and philosophy are not scientific yet they are not irrational. So it is scientism that seems to be irrational.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for Dawkins's claim that religion is responsible for the ills of the world, this is demonstrably a wild distortion. Some of the worst horrors in human history - the French revolutionary terror, Nazism, communism - have been atheist creeds. And although terrible things indeed have been done in the name of religion, the fact remains that Christianity and the Hebrew Bible form the foundation stone of Western civilisation and its great cause of human equality and freedom.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-7027388585094071679?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/dawkins-preaches-to-the-deluded-against-the-divine/story-e6frg6zo-1225841086925' title='Dawkins preaches to the deluded against the divine'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/7027388585094071679/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=7027388585094071679' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7027388585094071679'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7027388585094071679'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/03/dawkins-preaches-to-deluded-against.html' title='Dawkins preaches to the deluded against the divine'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-7804455189436010172</id><published>2010-03-19T20:07:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2010-03-19T20:14:36.619+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tim Keller'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Proverbs'/><title type='text'>Mini guide to faithful living</title><content type='html'>I like this comment from Tim Keller's blog, in which he says that Proverbs chapter 3, verses 3 to 12 is a kind of mini guide to faithful living.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He says&lt;blockquote&gt;There are five things that comprise a wise, godly life. They function both as means to becoming wise and godly as well as signs that you are growing into such a life:&lt;br /&gt;1. Put your heart's deepest trust in God and his grace. Every day remind yourself of his unconditioned, covenantal love for you. Do not instead put your hopes in idols or in your own performance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Submit your whole mind to the Scripture. Don't think you know better than God's word. Bring it to bear on every area of life. Become a person under authority.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. Be humble and teachable toward others. Be forgiving and understanding when you want to be critical of them; be ready to learn from others when they come to be critical of you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. Be generous with all your possessions, and passionate about justice. Share your time, talent, and treasure with those who have less.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. Accept and learn from difficulties and suffering. Through the gospel, recognize them as not punishment, but a way of refining you.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He goes on to say that these characteristics are exemplified by Jesus himself:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;a) he showed the ultimate trust and faithfulness to God and to us by going to the cross, &lt;br /&gt;b) he was saturated with and shaped by Scripture, &lt;br /&gt;c) he was meek and lowly in heart (Mt. 11:28-30), &lt;br /&gt;d) he, though rich, became poor for us, &lt;br /&gt;e) and he bore his suffering, for us, without complaint. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We can only grow in these five areas if you know you are saved by costly grace. That keeps you from idols, from self-sufficiency and pride, from selfishness with your things, and from crumbling under troubles. Jesus is wisdom personified, and believing his gospel brings these character qualities into your life.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-7804455189436010172?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.redeemercitytocity.com/blog/view.jsp?Blog_param=146' title='Mini guide to faithful living'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/7804455189436010172/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=7804455189436010172' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7804455189436010172'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7804455189436010172'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/03/mini-guide-to-faithful-living.html' title='Mini guide to faithful living'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-8004368487452297354</id><published>2010-03-19T09:23:00.004+11:00</published><updated>2010-03-19T09:31:43.573+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Abraham Schmuelof'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hebrews'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Greek'/><title type='text'>How's your Hebrew?</title><content type='html'>I'm coming to the end of my project of reading through the ESV Study Bible. I've now read about 86% of Psalms, the OT and the NT. I try to keep it proportional as I read.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've enjoyed George Somsel's Lenten Greek reading plan for reading through Luke and have even finished it early. I'm not sure if it is naughty to read the sections intended for Good Friday and Easter Sunday beforehand, but I did. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I say "read," I am reading some with understanding, and other bits with considerably less.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was so enjoyable doing this that I have embarked on a project to read through the New Testament in Greek and the Psalms in Hebrew.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My Hebrew is weak, which is immediately evident when I try to follow Abraham Schmuelof's wonderful readings in my Soncino Psalms. But I think I'm making a tiny amount of progress. I don't suppose there is anyone in Bathurst who would want to join in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I notice that it is much easier to read 2 and 3 John than Luke. I wonder if this will always be the case? Is it too much to hoep that I may be able to complete this project by the end of this year, and the end of the first decade of the Twenty-First Century?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-8004368487452297354?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://individual.utoronto.ca/mfkolarcik/AbrahamShmuelof.html' title='How&apos;s your Hebrew?'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/8004368487452297354/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=8004368487452297354' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8004368487452297354'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8004368487452297354'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/03/hows-your-hebrew.html' title='How&apos;s your Hebrew?'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-5808525426819086041</id><published>2010-03-13T19:04:00.001+11:00</published><updated>2010-03-13T19:06:58.521+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='50 great myths of popular psychology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Michael Duffy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='hypnosis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='brain'/><title type='text'>Trying to be happy is like trying to be taller, says Michael Duffy</title><content type='html'>&lt;i&gt;Life's journey is a myth-busting affair&lt;/i&gt;, Michael Duffy's piece in today's Sydney Morning Herald, reports on the new book Fifty Great Myths of Popular Psychology, by Scott Lilienfeld, Steven Jay Lynn, John Ruscio and Barry Beyerstein.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Duffy argues that the idea that we can make ourselves happier is a myth. He also points out that being unhappy sometimes is a part of life, and is not necessarily a bad thing. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the myths the book deals with is the idea that men and women are extremely different. The authors suggest that John Gray's book title should be changed to &lt;i&gt;Men Are From North Dakota, Women Are From South Dakota&lt;/i&gt;!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is the list of 50 ideas the authors claim are all myths, or at least, more untrue than they are true:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;1 Brain Power&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;big&gt;Myths about the Brain and Perception&lt;/big&gt; &lt;br /&gt;#1 Most People Use Only 10% of Their Brain Power &lt;br /&gt;#2 Some People Are Left-Brained, Others Are Right-Brained &lt;br /&gt;#3 Extrasensory Perception Is a Well-Established Scientific Phenomenon &lt;br /&gt;#4 Visual Perceptions Are Accompanied by Tiny Emissions from the Eyes &lt;br /&gt;#5 Subliminal Messages Can Persuade People to Purchase Products &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;2 From Womb to Tomb&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;big&gt;Myths about Development and Aging&lt;/big&gt; &lt;br /&gt;#6 Playing Mozart’s Music to Infants Boosts Their Intelligence &lt;br /&gt;#7 Adolescence Is Inevitably a Time of Psychological Turmoil &lt;br /&gt;#8 Most People Experience a Midlife Crisis in Their 40s or Early 50s &lt;br /&gt;#9 Old Age Is Typically Associated with Increased Dissatisfaction and Senility &lt;br /&gt;#10 When Dying, People Pass through a Universal Series of Psychological Stages &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;3 A Remembrance of Things Past&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;big&gt;Myths about Memory&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;#11 Human Memory Works like a Tape Recorder or Video Camera, and Accurately Records the Events&lt;br /&gt;We’ve Experienced &lt;br /&gt;#12 Hypnosis is Useful for Retrieving Memories of Forgotten Events &lt;br /&gt;#13 Individuals Commonly Repress the Memories of Traumatic Experiences&lt;br /&gt;#14 Most People with Amnesia Forget All Details of Their Earlier Lives &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;4 Teaching Old Dogs New Tricks&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;big&gt;Myths about Intelligence and Learning&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;#15 Intelligence Tests Are Biased against Certain Groups of People &lt;br /&gt;#16 If You’re Unsure of Your Answer When Taking a Test, It’s Best to Stick with Your Initial Hunch &lt;br /&gt;#17 The Defining Feature of Dyslexia Is Reversing Letters&lt;br /&gt;#18 Students Learn Best When Teaching Styles Are Matched to Their Learning Styles&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;5 Altered States&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;big&gt;Myths about Consciousness&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;#19 Hypnosis Is a Unique “Trance” State that Differs in Kind from Wakefulness&lt;br /&gt;#20 Researchers Have Demonstrated that Dreams Possess Symbolic Meaning &lt;br /&gt;#21 Individuals Can Learn Information, like New anguages, while Asleep &lt;br /&gt;#22 During “Out-of-Body” Experiences, People’s Consciousness Leaves Their Bodies &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;6 I’ve Got a Feeling&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;big&gt;Myths about Emotion and Motivation&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;#23 The Polygraph (“Lie Detector”) Test Is an Accurate Means of Detecting Dishonesty&lt;br /&gt;#24 Happiness Is Determined Mostly by Our External Circumstances &lt;br /&gt;#25 Ulcers Are Caused Primarily or Entirely by Stress &lt;br /&gt;#26 A Positive Attitude Can Stave off Cancer &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;7 The Social Animal&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;big&gt;Myths about Interpersonal Behavior&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;#27 Opposites Attract: We Are Most Romantically Attracted to People Who Differ from Us &lt;br /&gt;#28 There’s Safety in Numbers: The More People Present at an Emergency, the Greater the Chance that Someone Will Intervene&lt;br /&gt;#29 Men and Women Communicate in Completely Different Ways &lt;br /&gt;#30 It’s Better to Express Anger to Others than to Hold It in &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;8 Know Thyself&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;big&gt;Myths about Personality&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;#31 Raising Children Similarly Leads to Similarities in Their Adult Personalities&lt;br /&gt;#32 The Fact that a Trait Is Heritable Means We Can’t Change It &lt;br /&gt;#33 Low Self-Esteem Is a Major Cause of Psychological Problems &lt;br /&gt;#34 Most People Who Were Sexually Abused in Childhood Develop Severe Personality&lt;br /&gt;Disturbances in Adulthood &lt;br /&gt;#35 People’s Responses to Inkblots Tell Us a Great Deal about Their Personalities &lt;br /&gt;#36 Our Handwriting Reveals Our Personality Traits &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;9 Sad, Mad, and Bad&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;big&gt;Myths about Mental Illness&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;#37 Psychiatric Labels Cause Harm by Stigmatizing People &lt;br /&gt;#38 Only Deeply Depressed People Commit Suicide &lt;br /&gt;#39 People with Schizophrenia Have Multiple Personalities &lt;br /&gt;#40 Adult Children of Alcoholics Display a Distinct Profile of Symptoms &lt;br /&gt;#41 There’s Recently Been a Massive Epidemic of Infantile Autism &lt;br /&gt;#42 Psychiatric Hospital Admissions and Crimes Increase during Full Moons &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;10 Disorder in the Court&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;big&gt;Myths about Psychology and the Law&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;#43 Most Mentally Ill People Are Violent&lt;br /&gt;#44 Criminal Profiling Is Helpful in Solving Cases &lt;br /&gt;#45 A Large Proportion Of Criminals Successfully Use the Insanity Defense &lt;br /&gt;#46 Virtually All People Who Confess to a Crime Are Guilty of It&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;11 Skills and Pills&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;big&gt;Myths about Psychological Treatment&lt;/big&gt;&lt;br /&gt;#47 Expert Judgment and Intuition Are the Best Means of Making Clinical Decisions &lt;br /&gt;#48 Abstinence Is the Only Realistic Treatment Goal for Alcoholics &lt;br /&gt;#49 All Effective Psychotherapies Force People to Confront the “Root” Causes of Their Problems in Childhood &lt;br /&gt;#50 Electroconvulsive (“Shock”) Therapy Is a Physically Dangerous and Brutal Treatment&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' 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happy is like trying to be taller, says Michael Duffy'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-7910693228861685833</id><published>2010-03-10T15:19:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2010-03-10T15:28:02.899+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='palindromes'/><title type='text'>A man, a plan, a cat, a ham, a yak, a yam, a hat, a canal – Panama!</title><content type='html'>Don't you love palindromes? Beats farce, anyday, Stephen!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here are a few of my favourites:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Retteb, si flahd noces eht tub, &lt;br /&gt;but the second half is better.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Doctor Reubenstein was shocked and dismayed when he answered the ringing telephone, only to hear a strange, metallic, alien voice say, &lt;br /&gt;"Yasec iovn eilacilla temeg! Nartsa raehoty lnoenoh pelet gnig, nirehtde rewsnaehn ehw. Deya! Msid! Dnadek cohssaw nietsne buerro, tcod?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-7910693228861685833?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.rinkworks.com/words/palindromes.shtml' title='A man, a plan, a cat, a ham, a yak, a yam, a hat, a canal – Panama!'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/7910693228861685833/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=7910693228861685833' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7910693228861685833'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/7910693228861685833'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/03/man-plan-cat-ham-yak-yam-hat-canal.html' title='A man, a plan, a cat, a ham, a yak, a yam, a hat, a canal – Panama!'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-6653091497270011752</id><published>2010-03-03T07:06:00.005+11:00</published><updated>2010-03-03T07:15:43.706+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='TNIV'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Psalm 121'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Marching to Zion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='songs of ascent'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ESV Study Bible'/><title type='text'>Ahhhhhhh ....yes!</title><content type='html'>This morning I read Psalm 121 in the ESV Study Bible. I don't ever remember being told previously the whole point of the passage!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;1 I lift up my eyes to the mountains— &lt;br /&gt;       where does my help come from?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    2 My help comes from the LORD, &lt;br /&gt;       the Maker of heaven and earth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    3 He will not let your foot slip— &lt;br /&gt;       he who watches over you will not slumber;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    4 indeed, he who watches over Israel &lt;br /&gt;       will neither slumber nor sleep.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    5 The LORD watches over you— &lt;br /&gt;       the LORD is your shade at your right hand;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    6 the sun will not harm you by day, &lt;br /&gt;       nor the moon by night.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    7 The LORD will keep you from all harm— &lt;br /&gt;       he will watch over your life;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    8 the LORD will watch over your coming and going &lt;br /&gt;       both now and forevermore. [TNIV ...aren't I naughty!]&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We're en route to Jerusalem. This is one of the songs of ascent, which the Jews sang as they made their way to Jerusalem to worship. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is not that God is going to help me fulfil all my plans or make me a rich person. He's not going to keep me safe so that I can continue to live a life in rebellion against him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God is going to keep us and preserve us, so that we will arrive safely in the heavenly Jerusalem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We can only get there by his grace, but we &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;will&lt;/span&gt; certainly get there safely. Whoo hoo!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reminds me of the great hymn about marching to Zion. This is close to the original version&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Come, we that love the Lord,&lt;br /&gt;And let our joys be known;&lt;br /&gt;Join in a song with sweet accord,&lt;br /&gt;Join in a song with sweet accord&lt;br /&gt;And thus surround the throne,&lt;br /&gt;And thus surround the throne.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Refrain&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We’re marching to Zion,&lt;br /&gt;Beautiful, beautiful Zion;&lt;br /&gt;We’re marching upward to Zion,&lt;br /&gt;The beautiful city of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The sorrows of the mind&lt;br /&gt;Be banished from the place;&lt;br /&gt;Religion never was designed&lt;br /&gt;Religion never was designed,&lt;br /&gt;To make our pleasures less,&lt;br /&gt;To make our pleasures less.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Refrain&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let those refuse to sing,&lt;br /&gt;Who never knew our God;&lt;br /&gt;But favorites of the heavenly King,&lt;br /&gt;But favorites of the heavenly King&lt;br /&gt;May speak their joys abroad,&lt;br /&gt;May speak their joys abroad.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Refrain&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The God that rules on high,&lt;br /&gt;And thunders when He please,&lt;br /&gt;Who rides upon the stormy sky,&lt;br /&gt;Who rides upon the stormy sky,&lt;br /&gt;And manages the seas,&lt;br /&gt;And manages the seas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Refrain&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This awful God is ours,&lt;br /&gt;Our Father and our Love;&lt;br /&gt;He will send down his heav’nly powers,&lt;br /&gt;He will send down his heav’nly powers,&lt;br /&gt;To carry us above,&lt;br /&gt;To carry us above.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Refrain&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There we shall see His face,&lt;br /&gt;And never, never sin!&lt;br /&gt;There, from the rivers of His grace,&lt;br /&gt;There, from the rivers of His grace,&lt;br /&gt;Drink endless pleasures in,&lt;br /&gt;Drink endless pleasures in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Refrain&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yea, and before we rise,&lt;br /&gt;To that immortal state,&lt;br /&gt;The thoughts of such amazing bliss,&lt;br /&gt;The thoughts of such amazing bliss,&lt;br /&gt;Should constant joys create,&lt;br /&gt;Should constant joys create.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Refrain&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The men of grace have found,&lt;br /&gt;Glory begun below.&lt;br /&gt;Celestial fruits on earthly ground&lt;br /&gt;Celestial fruits on earthly ground&lt;br /&gt;From faith and hope may grow,&lt;br /&gt;From faith and hope may grow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Refrain&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The hill of Zion yields&lt;br /&gt;A thousand sacred sweets&lt;br /&gt;Before we reach the heav’nly fields,&lt;br /&gt;Before we reach the heav’nly fields,&lt;br /&gt;Or walk the golden streets,&lt;br /&gt;Or walk the golden streets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Refrain&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then let our songs abound,&lt;br /&gt;And every tear be dry;&lt;br /&gt;We’re marching through Immanuel’s ground,&lt;br /&gt;We’re marching through Immanuel’s ground,&lt;br /&gt;To fairer worlds on high,&lt;br /&gt;To fairer worlds on high.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Refrain&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-6653091497270011752?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/6653091497270011752/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=6653091497270011752' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6653091497270011752'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6653091497270011752'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/03/ahhhhhhh-yes.html' title='Ahhhhhhh ....yes!'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-2498409024076595601</id><published>2010-02-27T08:43:00.003+11:00</published><updated>2010-02-27T08:50:53.670+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Brian McLaren'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='A New Kind of Christianity'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Scot McKnight'/><title type='text'>A New Kind of Christianity?</title><content type='html'>I like this quote from Scot McKnight's review of Brian McLaren's &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;A New Kind of Christianity&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;Reading the Bible through the lens of Jesus Christ is indeed the way to go. But to use Jesus against the God of Israel he worshiped and prayed to and loved and obeyed pits us against what Jesus himself is doing. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And he ends his article with this:&lt;blockquote&gt;The flow of the Bible is not neat. It doesn't fit into an evolutionary scheme. There are as many mercy passages in the Old Testament as there are grace-and-love passages in the New. What's more, passages about God's grace stand side-by-side with passages about God's wrath (e.g., Hosea 1-3; Matt. 23-25). The evolutionary approach doesn't work because that's not how Scripture's narrative works. There is wrath in Revelation and there is covenant love in Genesis. And Jesus talks more about Abba and hell than does the rest of the Bible combined.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately, this book lacks the "generosity" of genuine orthodoxy and, frankly, I find little space in it for orthodoxy itself. Orthodoxy for too many today means little more than the absence of denying what's in the creeds. But a robust orthodoxy means that orthodoxy itself is the lens through which we see theology. One thing about this book is clear: Orthodoxy is not central.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Alas, A New Kind of Christianity shows us that Brian, though he is now thinking more systemically, has fallen for an old school of thought. I read this book carefully, and I found nothing new. It may be new for Brian, but it's a rehash of ideas that grew into fruition with Adolf von Harnack and now find iterations in folks like Harvey Cox and Marcus Borg. For me, Brian's new kind of Christianity is quite old. And the problem is that it's not old enough.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sometimes when I read McKnight himself, such as his Blue Parakeet], it appears he is straying from the bounds of orthodoxy, but in this article he shows which side he is on. He certainly nails his colours to the right mast.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-2498409024076595601?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2010/march/3.59.html?start=1' title='A New Kind of Christianity?'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/2498409024076595601/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=2498409024076595601' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/2498409024076595601'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/2498409024076595601'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/02/new-kind-of-christianity.html' title='A New Kind of Christianity?'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-3774801498710251714</id><published>2010-02-26T23:34:00.001+11:00</published><updated>2010-02-26T23:36:50.762+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='home insulation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Peter Garrett'/><title type='text'>A different perspective</title><content type='html'>Some thought-provoking letters related to the failed home insulation scheme from today's Sydney Morning Herald. [26th February, 2010]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Don't overlook the jobs Garrett's scheme created&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More than enough has been said about the merits and deficiencies of the government's home insulation scheme. But now that just this one scheme has been stopped, 6000 people are out of a job and wanting assistance. Surely this starkly illustrates how many people would have been unemployed throughout all industries if the government had not introduced its economic stimulus measures following the global financial crisis.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Allan Thomas Lochinvar&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please could the Herald print data quoting industrial deaths and house fires in the roof insulation industry before the government's rebate scheme. Tragic as the recent deaths and house fires are, it is hard to believe there were no accidents in the industry before.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Lorna Denham Cardiff Heights&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It broke my heart to see on ABC news the crocodile tears from a small-business owner laying off staff who had been employed for three or four years ''because the home insulation scheme has been scrapped''. The scheme ran for less than a year. Presumably most of those longer term workers were earning their keep before it started.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some of these small businesses were responsible for at least a quarter of home insulations having serious defects. They paid no heed to building regulations, provided inadequate training for their staff and ignored the health and safety of their workers and customers - happily raking in government subsidies the while.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope Kevin Rudd's generous retrenchment offer will not be used by small-business owners to avoid unfair dismissal legislation and get rid of staff they are keen to see the back of. Only reputable companies will be able to resume government subsidised work before a new scheme starts in June. Shonky businesses are more likely to opt for bankruptcy to avoid paying their debts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Linda Stewart Lane Cove&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With the lessons from the St James Ethics Centre becoming an alternative to religious education, perhaps Simon Longstaff would suggest that Jesus's ministerial responsibility for his Department of Disciples meant that Judas's actions required Jesus to resign (''Garrett must accept harsh necessities of our constitution'', February 25).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Peter Oliver Adamstown Heights&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-3774801498710251714?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.smh.com.au/national/letters/barangaroo-spawns-a-very-sydney-argument-20100225-p5uc.html?skin=text-only' title='A different perspective'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/3774801498710251714/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=3774801498710251714' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/3774801498710251714'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/3774801498710251714'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/02/different-perspective.html' title='A different perspective'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-9100618091724276665</id><published>2010-02-26T09:07:00.003+11:00</published><updated>2010-02-26T09:20:13.172+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Books of the Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ESV Study Bible'/><title type='text'>Got two years available?</title><content type='html'>I don't mean to be boring, because I've said all this before, but the ESV Study Bible is an amazing resource. I am now 78% of the way through it and have read&lt;br /&gt;Genesis-2 Samuel &lt;br /&gt;Chronicles&lt;br /&gt;Esther&lt;br /&gt;Job&lt;br /&gt;Proverbs-Lamentations&lt;br /&gt;Joel-Jonah&lt;br /&gt;Nahum-Haggai&lt;br /&gt;Matthew&lt;br /&gt;Luke-1 Corinthians&lt;br /&gt;Ephesians-Jude&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I appreciate the individual articles, introductions and study notes, but also the way they interrelate. The editors have done a terrific job.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jack Collins' introduction and notes on Psalms are particularly outstanding. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Again and again the contributors show how important Deuteronomy and Exodus 34:6-7 are in the plan of the Old Testament and to the Bible as a whole.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think every Christian person should be involved in getting to know God's Word, firstly through reading it without comments. An excellent way to do this is to read &lt;a href="http://www.ibsdirect.com/p-574-the-books-of-the-bible.aspx"&gt;The Books of the Bible: a presentation of Today's New International Version&lt;/a&gt;, which removes chapters, verses and headings, rearranges the text to be partly chronological and partly thematic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then, when you have some familiarity with the Bible and have read the whole of it through, I can't think of a better guide than the ESV Study Bible. I'm finding it thrilling, though hard-going too, at times.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-9100618091724276665?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.esvstudybible.org/' title='Got two years available?'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/9100618091724276665/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=9100618091724276665' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/9100618091724276665'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/9100618091724276665'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/02/got-two-years-available.html' title='Got two years available?'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-3936757703512255937</id><published>2010-02-25T14:15:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2010-02-25T14:19:49.584+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Barry O&apos;Farrell'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the Sydney magazine'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Micah 6:8'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Kristina Keneally'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Malcolm Turnbull'/><title type='text'>Email to the Premier</title><content type='html'>Open email to our Premier, Kristina Keneally&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;G'day Ms Keneally.&lt;br /&gt;I enjoyed the article in today's Sydney magazine. You are presenting yourself very well and I think you are in with a chance for the next election, unless the Liberals wheel out Malcolm Turnbull, if it were possible to get him installed in such a short time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The only reason that the electorate would vote Liberal with the current leader [I think] would be because they are not the stinking NSW Labor Party, which is certainly on the nose. But the Libs don't seem to have much that is positive to offer as an alternative. I'm not saying that because of animosity towards Mr O'Farrell, but because he and his party do not seem to be a credible alternative currently.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was interested in your motto. &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Micah 6:8&lt;/span&gt; is a wonderful part of holy scripture, but you left out the key part which is Yahweh. Surely this verse harks back [as so many do] to Exodus 34:6-7 where God proclaims his loving, merciful, just and faithful character to Moses.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think Micah is saying we must be just because Yahweh our God is just; tenderly compassionate because he is compassionate, and walk humbly with him because he is our Yahweh, our God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To leave him out is to completely misunderstand what Micah was saying.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I pray that you will restore him to his rightful place next time you  cite this verse.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wish you well in the extremely difficult job you have been given.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We regularly [though not regularly enough] pray for our leaders, including you, in our little church in Bathurst.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;David McKay&lt;br /&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt;www.gontroppo.blogspot.com&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-3936757703512255937?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://thesydneymagazine.smh.com.au/' title='Email to the Premier'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/3936757703512255937/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=3936757703512255937' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/3936757703512255937'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/3936757703512255937'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/02/email-to-premier.html' title='Email to the Premier'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-3163069451881510757</id><published>2010-02-23T11:35:00.005+11:00</published><updated>2010-02-23T11:44:11.212+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mark Driscoll'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ultimate Fighting Championship'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Craig Schwarze'/><title type='text'>Christians promoting blood and gore fights?</title><content type='html'>Three letter writers in today's Sydney Morning Herald have perfectly expressed my views on The Ultimate Fighting Championship.&lt;br /&gt;I am appalled that Mark Driscoll could support such sickening thuggery and that others are sucked in by it, too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Driscoll has some good qualities, but his penchant for turning Christian boys into men unfortunately sometimes leads to an excessive desire for men to be brutes. So unlike their Lord and Master.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Grow up, Mark and grow up, Craig.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm so sorry that commenting is no longer allowed at the site cited in the heading.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Please, no more of the roar for gore&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Ultimate Fighting Championship is a disgusting, sickening spectacle of the worst of human nature ('''Smell the blood!' The sickening roar for gore'', February 22). There is something wrong with people who want to hurt people. There is more wrong with people who want to watch.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Don't give me rubbish about the participants being highly trained and skilled athletes. There is no honour in skill and strength when used for violence and the purpose of injuring someone to the extent they submit or cannot continue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is enough news of people being brutally beaten for no reason on Sydney streets. The spectacle of a man continuously punching another while he is on the ground with blood flowing will only encourage the animals on the streets to do more of the same.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Herald should be ashamed for covering this garbage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Glenn Newton Broulee&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We have banned cockfighting and dogfighting on the grounds of excessive cruelty but there is no such restriction on manfighting, as Peter FitzSimons has discovered.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If this spectacle is to continue, I suggest the proceeds be taxed at 99 per cent and put into general revenue. That way we would all win. Pity about the mangled loser but one can't have everything.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John Warren Annandale&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ultimate fighting and cage fighting, with thousands flocking to see the brutality and gore, takes from us any claim to be a civilised society.&lt;br /&gt;George Cotis  Port Hacking&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-3163069451881510757?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.sydneyanglicans.net/life/daytoday/the_christian_and_the_cage_fighter/' title='Christians promoting blood and gore fights?'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/3163069451881510757/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=3163069451881510757' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/3163069451881510757'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/3163069451881510757'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/02/christians-promoting-blood-and-gore.html' title='Christians promoting blood and gore fights?'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-4739476253064579509</id><published>2010-02-15T13:36:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2010-02-15T13:38:37.788+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='NIV'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ESV'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New Living Translation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible translation'/><title type='text'>Retranslating, for the sake of argument</title><content type='html'>Isn't it frustrating when people argue from their own translation of Scripture, or from a non-standard rendering of Scripture, to prove a point!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think we would all want to say Amen to that when someone else is doing it, but might want to support doing this in our own individual case!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Discussion can be tricky if your opponent only accepts one translation as authoritative, such as the King James Version or New World Translation, for example.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On Sunday, our minister preached a terrific message from 1 Samuel 17, the story of David and Goliath. He made the point that the whole passage is about Goliath and the Philistines defying God and that the Hebrew word translated defy, or a word related to it, occurs over and over in the passage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sometimes the word was translated with a different English word in most English versions [though, interestingly the New Living Translation used the word defiance in 1 Sam 17:26, where most other well-known versions don't].&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this case, it was helpful to be told what the original said, even though it didn't show up in our NIVs [or even, whisper, whisper ESVs].&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I think it is a fair point that if you have to retranslate a passage to make your point, you should think about making it from another passage which you don't have to retranslate.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-4739476253064579509?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/4739476253064579509/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=4739476253064579509' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/4739476253064579509'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/4739476253064579509'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/02/retranslating-for-sake-of-argument.html' title='Retranslating, for the sake of argument'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-8967531495438970819</id><published>2010-02-13T18:19:00.008+11:00</published><updated>2010-02-13T18:39:53.887+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='you and me'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='We Are The World'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='you and I'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Youtube'/><title type='text'>You and I and Me</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="560" height="340"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Glny4jSciVI&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Glny4jSciVI&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I often notice that people don't say &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;You and Me&lt;/span&gt; any more, but always say &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;You and I&lt;/span&gt;. A sexagenarian told me that it is always wrong to say &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;You and Me.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I do have to admit that it is tricky and I can see why we have settled on always saying &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;You and I&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today I watched We Are The World 25 For Haiti. I would have loved an annotated copy, like the one someone has kindly done of the original version.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I couldn't help noticing these words:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It's true we'll make a better day&lt;br /&gt;Just you and me &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was pleased to hear people singing &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;You and Me&lt;/span&gt;, but disappointed that it was incorrect, and that they should have sung &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;You and I&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think that in this couplet &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;You and Me&lt;/span&gt; is being used as a parallel to &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;We&lt;/span&gt;, so that you would say "You and I will make a better day" not &lt;br /&gt;"You and ME will make a better day."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How disappointing!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And I have to admit that when I say "You and Me," even when it appears to be correct grammar, it is starting to sound odd. Ain't that a shame!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="560" height="340"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/m87L5KP-aI4&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/m87L5KP-aI4&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-8967531495438970819?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/8967531495438970819/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=8967531495438970819' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8967531495438970819'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8967531495438970819'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/02/you-and-i-and-me.html' title='You and I and Me'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-1353315948151658220</id><published>2010-02-12T13:34:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2010-02-12T13:36:01.399+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='happiness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='misery'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='whole-heartedness'/><title type='text'>A gem from Ray Ortlund</title><content type='html'>My dad used to say to me, when I was a kid, “Listen, son.  Half-hearted Christians are the most miserable people of all.  They know enough to feel guilty, but they haven’t gone far enough with Christ to be happy.  Be wholehearted for him!”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I used to roll my eyes when you said that.  I don’t any more.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-1353315948151658220?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/rayortlund/' title='A gem from Ray Ortlund'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/1353315948151658220/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=1353315948151658220' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1353315948151658220'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1353315948151658220'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/02/gem-from-ray-ortlund.html' title='A gem from Ray Ortlund'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-3991498916740485533</id><published>2010-02-12T11:42:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2010-02-12T12:21:13.969+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jim Belcher'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tim Keller'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Emerging Church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='C S Lewis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Darrell Bock'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Deep Church'/><title type='text'>Deep Church</title><content type='html'>DEEP CHURCH by Jim Belcher&lt;br /&gt;I bought this book last time I visited the store, and was pleased to meet the head sherang, Karl Grice, at the same time. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The title is a quote from a 1952 C S Lewis letter to the &lt;i&gt;Church Times&lt;/i&gt; in which he said that instead of being either Low Church or High Church, perhaps Christians who believe in God's supernatural intervention in the world should be called Deep Church, or in Richard Baxter's terminology &lt;i&gt;Mere Christians&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Belcher is one of the pastors of the Redeemer Presbyterian Churches founded by Tim Keller. He has researched the Emerging Church movement extensively by meeting its leaders, attending meetings and reading their literature and blogs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He says that traditional Christians and Emerging folk are suspicious of one another and need to get to know and learn from this interaction. He believes there is a way of combining the best of both worlds into a new Deep Church, while still being cautious about unhelpful aspects of both groups.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The book is well worth reading. You might also find Darrell Bock's article at &lt;a href="http://blog.bible.org/bock/node/73"&gt;bock's blog&lt;/a&gt; to be something to chew over.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-3991498916740485533?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.thedeepchurch.com/' title='Deep Church'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/3991498916740485533/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=3991498916740485533' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/3991498916740485533'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/3991498916740485533'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/02/deep-church.html' title='Deep Church'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-6738368447215597977</id><published>2010-02-11T23:35:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2010-02-11T23:37:34.600+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Palliative care'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='euthanasia'/><title type='text'>Discrepancy</title><content type='html'>Interesting comments by Dr Megan Best, Palliative Care doctor&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I have always found striking the discrepancy between the public support for euthanasia (among those who are healthy) and my patients’ desire for continued life. I was informed of a recent poll which claimed that 87 per cent of Australians support legalisation of euthanasia.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    Research done on palliative care populations, however, tells a different story. A study done some years ago in Sydney found that less than one per cent of those referred to a palliative care service made persistent requests for euthanasia.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My own observation is that things haven’t changed much since then. Why the disparity?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think there are many reasons why this is the case. The absence of death in everyday life no doubt contributes - it is a remote event often occurring in hospitals, and many of us base our understanding of what really happens on hearsay. And hearsay, especially from the distant past, has some horrifying stories to tell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet I think the main reason why our community voices such strong support for euthanasia is because it has been confused about some accepted end-of-life practices which are already legal, but poorly understood. These include withdrawal of life-prolonging treatment and symptom control.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another palliative care doctor featured on Australian ABC TV's Four Corners program on Monday night said something similar&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-6738368447215597977?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://andjustincase.blogspot.com/2010/02/failing-to-understand-death-dying.html' title='Discrepancy'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/6738368447215597977/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=6738368447215597977' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6738368447215597977'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6738368447215597977'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/02/discrepancy.html' title='Discrepancy'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-6669506094563840539</id><published>2010-02-11T08:43:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2010-02-11T08:47:35.544+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='humour'/><title type='text'>Tominthebox news network</title><content type='html'>Tominthebox news network has me chuckling from time to time. The past few items are great fun. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I like the Russian elderly protesting over the new facebook layout and also love the one about the kids who are counting up to 490 times that they have to forgive one another [and the boy doesn't have to forgive his sister, because it only says, in the ESV, for example, that you have to forgive your brother], and I also love the news that the Episcopal Church is about to permit opposite sex couples to marry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Magic!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-6669506094563840539?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://tominthebox.blogspot.com/' title='Tominthebox news network'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/6669506094563840539/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=6669506094563840539' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6669506094563840539'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6669506094563840539'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/02/tominthebox-news-network.html' title='Tominthebox news network'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-8877844966518082489</id><published>2010-02-10T22:39:00.003+11:00</published><updated>2010-02-10T22:54:14.693+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='But You Don&apos;t Know Harry'/><title type='text'>But You Don't Know Kerry</title><content type='html'>The original was called &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;But you don't know Harry&lt;/span&gt; and was written by a woman for women, but it impacted me when I read it about 30 years ago, and I think it applies to all of us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The title of the book means &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'd like to be obedient to Jesus and be nice to my wife, but my wife, Kerry is impossible!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'd love to put in an honest day's work, but my boss, Kerry is a mean person and doesn't deserve to be treated kindly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we're honest, I reckon we all have piles of these excuses. And that's all they are, aren't they!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-8877844966518082489?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/8877844966518082489/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=8877844966518082489' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8877844966518082489'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8877844966518082489'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/02/but-you-dont-know-kerry.html' title='But You Don&apos;t Know Kerry'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-1125609043156087499</id><published>2010-02-08T13:47:00.003+11:00</published><updated>2010-02-08T13:53:46.547+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bathurst Evangelical Church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rodney Macready'/><title type='text'>True leadership</title><content type='html'>On Sunday, our minister preached a terrific message on  1 Samuel 15 and 16, where God rejects Saul as king, and appoints David as the new leader of Israel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's the conclusion of the talk, but the whole thing is well worth reading:&lt;blockquote&gt;What's the most important thing to look for in a leader? God says:&lt;br /&gt;• It's someone who'll hear my word and do it.&lt;br /&gt;• It's someone whose heart wants what I want.&lt;br /&gt;• It's someone who's more interested in pleasing Me than in looking good before the people.&lt;br /&gt;What delights&lt;br /&gt;God is the person who hears His word and does it – the person who comes to His King and submits to Him. Is that you? If not, what will you do about it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am praying that our elected leaders who claim to be Christians would be people who truly submit to God's Word, however unpopular that may be.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-1125609043156087499?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.bathurstevangelical.org.au/talks/1samuel/15011623.pdf' title='True leadership'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/1125609043156087499/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=1125609043156087499' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1125609043156087499'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1125609043156087499'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/02/true-leadership.html' title='True leadership'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-5771056922744651046</id><published>2010-02-03T15:23:00.001+11:00</published><updated>2010-02-03T15:24:35.750+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spelling'/><title type='text'>Having a whinge</title><content type='html'>I'd just like to whinge about the lack of an E in the usual way people spell WHINGEING&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-5771056922744651046?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/5771056922744651046/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=5771056922744651046' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/5771056922744651046'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/5771056922744651046'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/02/having-whinge.html' title='Having a whinge'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-8678713685117883638</id><published>2010-01-31T22:26:00.004+11:00</published><updated>2010-01-31T23:02:06.092+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tim Keller'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Shack'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christianity Today'/><title type='text'>The Shack</title><content type='html'>When we lived in South Australia, well-heeled folk used to talk about their holiday house as &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;The Shack&lt;/span&gt;. I am guessing that these places were considerably more luxurious than anything we have ever lived in. It took a while before we realised that these shacks were nothing like Old Jack's shack that really was a shack. [Old Jack was a man who hobbled up and down Floraville Road, Belmont with a wheelbarrow. He was sort of the Lake Macquarie version of Old Steptoe, though he was a lot quieter.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I'm talking about that notorious novel that seems to have Christians divided about whether it is worth reading. I should point out that I have not yet read The Shack. I'm not even sure if I will. But I certainly find the reviews interesting!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Katherine Jeffrey's article, &lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/bc/2010/janfeb/iamnotwhoyouthinkiam.html?start=1"&gt;I am not who you think I am&lt;/a&gt;, queries Eugene Peterson's enthusiastic comparison of it with Pilgrim's Progress. And  &lt;a href="http://redeemercitytocity.com/blog/view.jsp?Blog_param=114"&gt;Tim Keller's blog&lt;/a&gt; tells us that &lt;blockquote&gt;the book is a noble effort -- to help modern people understand why God allows suffering.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, [says Keller] sprinkled throughout the book, Young's story undermines a number of traditional Christian doctrines. Many have gotten involved in debates about Young's theological beliefs, and I have my own strong concerns. But here is my main problem with the book. Anyone who is strongly influenced by the imaginative world of The Shack will be totally unprepared for the far more multi-dimensional and complex God that you actually meet when you read the Bible. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the prophets the reader will find a God who is constantly condemning and vowing judgment on his enemies, while the Persons of the Triune-God of The Shack repeatedly deny that sin is any offense to them. The reader of Psalm 119 is filled with delight at God's statutes, decrees, and laws, yet the God of The Shack insists that he doesn't give us any rules or even have any expectations of human beings. All he wants is relationship. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The reader of the lives of Abraham, Jacob, Moses, and Isaiah will learn that the holiness of God makes his immediate presence dangerous or fatal to us. Someone may counter (as Young seems to do, on p.192) that because of Jesus, God is now only a God of love, making all talk of holiness, wrath, and law obsolete. But when John, one of Jesus' closest friends, long after the crucifixion sees the risen Christ in person on the isle of Patmos, John 'fell at his feet as dead.' (Rev.1:17.) The Shack effectively deconstructs the holiness and transcendence of God. It is simply not there. In its place is unconditional love, period. The God of The Shack has none of the balance and complexity of the Biblical God. Half a God is not God at all. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wouldn't it be great if people would read the Word of God as eagerly as they have lapped up Young's story?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-8678713685117883638?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.theshackbook.com/index.html' title='The Shack'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/8678713685117883638/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=8678713685117883638' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8678713685117883638'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8678713685117883638'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/01/shack.html' title='The Shack'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-1332766178880205352</id><published>2010-01-23T09:39:00.001+11:00</published><updated>2010-01-23T09:41:35.845+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='preaching'/><title type='text'>An IDEA whose time has come</title><content type='html'>From Kevin DeYoung:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;When you come to a passage there are four things you can do: &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;illustrate, defend, explain, apply.&lt;/span&gt; I rearranged the order from seminary class so the four points make a convenient acronym: IDEA. Most young preachers, and probably most preachers in general, gravitate toward "explain." We do best at studying the text and communicating what we learned to others. If the passage is especially obscure or controversial, it makes sense to land heavy on the E. But sometimes the passage is relatively simple. In this case, don't spin your wheels on endless word studies that basically repeat with synonyms what everyone can see immediately in the text.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Illustrate" and "apply" are the hardest to do well. It requires a different part of your brain. You need to think creatively. You need to imagine what your people are or might be going through. You need to avoid the temptation to offer quick sermony points of application like "Don't let money be your idol" or "Some of you need to trust God with your time." Probe deeper. Use one good, personal illustration or one concrete point of application rather than firing application-buckshot with little imagination.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-1332766178880205352?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://blog.9marks.org/2010/01/one-thing-i-remember-from-preaching-class.html' title='An IDEA whose time has come'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/1332766178880205352/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=1332766178880205352' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1332766178880205352'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1332766178880205352'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/01/idea-whose-time-has-come.html' title='An IDEA whose time has come'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-8256364625527358955</id><published>2010-01-19T18:20:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2010-01-19T18:26:57.819+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tijuana Brass'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Herb Alpert'/><title type='text'>Tribute to Herb Alpert</title><content type='html'>This is an interesting article about Herb Alpert, though his name is messpelled as Al&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;B&lt;/span&gt;ert several times in the course of the article.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We had a Tijuana Brass LP back in about 1974 and loved it. Our baby boy used to love singing along to it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here a few snippets:&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s tough to imagine a bigger name in the music world than trumpet player Herb Alpert. He’s won eight Grammys. He’s cut 14 albums that went platinum, 15 that went gold.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He’s the “A” in A&amp;M Records. He discovered the Carpenters. He’s made millions of dollars as an entertainer and artist and given millions of dollars away to support the arts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Albert grew up in the Fairfax district of Los Angeles, a Jewish neighborhood; his father was a Jewish immigrant from Russia and his mother a Californian.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;His father played mandolin by ear, and young Herb picked up music quite naturally. He went to the University of Southern California, where he was in the Trojan marching band, and did a stint in the Army before returning to Los Angeles to work in the music industry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Early on, he was fascinated by recording technology. His first audio recorder was a WebCor wire recorder. (For the uninitiated, wire recorders used a hair-thin strand of wire running rapidly between reels to record magnetic pulses.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“That really dates me,” Alpert laughed. “Don’t put that in there!”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He soon moved onto magnetic tape. “And then when I heard Les Paul overdubbing his guitar several times. I tried that on the horn, just out of curiosity and came up with this sound I thought was interesting.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That was the sound of the Tijuana Brass.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A little known fact: The Tijuana Brass never existed as a band until after its album “Whipped Cream and Other Delights” came out in 1965. The early TJB was all Herb Alpert and his tape recorder.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But after “Whipped Cream” skyrocketed on the charts, people wanted to book the band for concerts. Alpert started hiring musicians to play the music he already had laid down on tape.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-8256364625527358955?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/web/entertainment/24350970-44/alpert-music-herb-whoa-brass.csp' title='Tribute to Herb Alpert'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/8256364625527358955/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=8256364625527358955' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8256364625527358955'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8256364625527358955'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/01/tribute-to-herb-alpert.html' title='Tribute to Herb Alpert'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-3496875119544640653</id><published>2010-01-17T12:40:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2010-01-17T12:43:58.494+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tim Challies'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='listening'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Judgment Day'/><title type='text'>Listening</title><content type='html'>I'm trying to become a better listener. And, if the quotes Tim Challies has given are correct, I will have a lot of explaining to do, one day about all the times I didn't listen to my minister well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do Christians have to give account of every idle word, every sin as well as non-Christians? How does this relate to having no fear on judgment day, because Jesus has taken our punishment?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-3496875119544640653?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.challies.com/archives/articles/quotes/the-responsibility-to-listen.php' title='Listening'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/3496875119544640653/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=3496875119544640653' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/3496875119544640653'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/3496875119544640653'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/01/listening.html' title='Listening'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-917506012163846377</id><published>2010-01-14T15:59:00.003+11:00</published><updated>2010-01-14T16:19:12.352+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Paul House'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jeremiah'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ESV Study Bible'/><title type='text'>Jeremiah</title><content type='html'>Jeremiah is the second longest book in the Bible and one of the hardest to read. [It is longer than Isaiah, though it does not contain as many chapters.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is probably the second last book of the Old Testament that I read all the way through, but I am now on my 9th journey, having read it through first in the New Living Translation and then seven more times in a complete read-through of the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It contains a lot of messages of God's judgment and at first, this put me off. But when you read the whole thing, you realise that this makes the many promises it also contains all the more special! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am loving my 8th journey through the whole Bible, led by the team of terrific teachers who wrote the introductions, articles and study notes in the ESV Study Bible. One of the treasures of this Bible is Jack Collins' helpful articles and his terrific introduction and study notes to Psalms.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But Paul House's introduction to Jeremiah is also very special. Here are a couple of highlights:&lt;br /&gt;Did you know that Jeremiah laboured faithfully for 40 years, largely to people who wouldn't listen to what he had to say?&lt;br /&gt;Kings would ask for his advice and then steadfastly ignore it!&lt;br /&gt;There are only two recorded converts: Baruch, who acted as Jeremiah's secretary, writing down the messages, and Ebed-melech, an Ethiopian eunuch. Imagine if he was a contemporary evangelist - he would get the sack for lack of results. God couldn't have called you, says his campaign manager, or you would be getting better results!&lt;br /&gt;Jeremiah called people to repent over a hundred times, but almost nobody did!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because of his capacity to keep on keeping on [as the Berger Paints advertisement runs, as frequently cited by my father], House suggests he should be called The Persevering Prophet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've only read the introduction and chapter one so far, but I'm looking forward to the journey.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-917506012163846377?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.esvstudybible.org/' title='Jeremiah'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/917506012163846377/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=917506012163846377' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/917506012163846377'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/917506012163846377'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/01/jeremiah.html' title='Jeremiah'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-8063919384875175176</id><published>2010-01-14T12:54:00.003+11:00</published><updated>2010-01-14T13:04:12.867+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Legalism'/><title type='text'>Legalism</title><content type='html'>If you look at my shared items, you'll see two links to articles about legalism which I've found helpful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I like the point about three kinds of legalism, from R C Sproul, Jnr, as reported by Stacy McDonald.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Legalism is a loaded word; but, as far as I can tell, there are three ways it is used, two are legitimate usages and one is just handy for shutting someone down. All Fred has to do when losing a debate on a biblical topic is accuse you of legalism and the conversation is closed. With fear and trembling, many back off—and Fred is the winner. Or is he?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Still, true legalism is a thing to detest. The two following definitions are what I would call the real McCoy:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Grace Plus Nothing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first form of legalism is the ugliest because it attempts to usurp the very Grace of God. Most of us will agree on this one. &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Anything that adds works to our salvation is legalism.&lt;/span&gt; There is nothing we can do to earn God’s favor. Without Christ we are totally depraved, totally helpless, and totally in need of a Savior. Our “good works” are as filthy rags and we can’t do anything to earn our salvation—He did it all. I didn’t find Jesus; He found me, kicking and screaming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Holier Than Jesus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;The second form of legalism has to do with adding rules to God’s laws&lt;/span&gt; (Col. 2:20-22). I have found this to be what most people are referring to when they talk about legalism. Sometimes this type of legalism is simply a matter of misinterpreting the Scriptures. Other times it is an issue of pride. Usually, it’s a poor attempt at holiness—trying to do things in our own strength and in our own wisdom, rather than in God’s.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are indeed precious souls who are bound up in false teachings that keep them from living the full life that God intended. But will we ever all agree on what is legalism and what is part of living a godly life? I doubt it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John doesn’t believe in celebrating Christmas, but he enjoys a glass of wine with dinner. His friend, Carl, believes alcohol consumption, even in moderation is wrong, but he has the most beautiful Christmas tree you’ve ever seen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jennifer believes in adhering to Old Testament dietary restrictions, but feels the freedom to wear modest pants. Her sister-in-law would never put on a pair or pants, but she thinks Jennifer is being legalistic about not eating pork.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Depending upon who you talk to, any of these things (and plenty more) may be labeled as legalistic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things edify. Let no one seek his own, but each one the other’s well-being. (1 Corinthians 10:23-24)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It’s that “putting others first” thing again. Discussing, studying, and sharing our various ideas and views is healthy and good. Iron sharpens iron as we are all learning and growing, but we must be so careful of the way we treat one another—being forbearing with one another’s weaknesses and faults.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;The False “Legalist” Label&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The third form of legalism is imaginary. If you believe in living according to God’s Word, you better be prepared for false accusations of legalism from someone, somewhere, at some time. Growing Antinomianism (anti-law) in our culture has escalated such accusations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution." (2 Timothy 3:12)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even when you seek to obey God in faith because you love Him (not because you’re attempting to earn his favor) those looking in from the outside may make assumptions about you—especially if they are convicted by your lifestyle and unwilling to evaluate their own lives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Calling others legalistic based on outward appearance is itself legalistic and hypocritical. Some of those who say that they have left legalism have really just exchanged one form for another and are still judging the spirituality of others based on how they are perceived by the ex-legalist.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our works don’t save us – our faith in Jesus does. But if we are in Christ, we must walk in those good works (prepared ahead of time by Him) for the glory of God. It's what we were created for.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-8063919384875175176?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://yoursacredcalling.blogspot.com/2010/01/legalism-yours-mine-and-ours.html' title='Legalism'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/8063919384875175176/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=8063919384875175176' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8063919384875175176'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8063919384875175176'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/01/legalism.html' title='Legalism'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-4368740189147656452</id><published>2010-01-14T11:54:00.001+11:00</published><updated>2010-01-14T11:57:25.988+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='King James Version'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible translation'/><title type='text'>Interesting comment on progress in Bible translation</title><content type='html'>I like this comment from the Better Bibles Blog:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In the (paraphrased) words of Robert Alter, the problem with the KJV is its shaky sense of Hebrew; the problem with more recent versions is their shaky sense of English.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-4368740189147656452?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://betterbibles.com/2010/01/05/translation-training/' title='Interesting comment on progress in Bible translation'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/4368740189147656452/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=4368740189147656452' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/4368740189147656452'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/4368740189147656452'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/01/interesting-comment-on-progress-in.html' title='Interesting comment on progress in Bible translation'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-596571373007844552</id><published>2010-01-13T18:11:00.003+11:00</published><updated>2010-01-13T19:50:09.231+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Howard Marshall'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Daniel Doriani'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Beyond the Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='hermeneutics'/><title type='text'>Beyond the Bible?</title><content type='html'>Last year I read and was disturbed by I Howard Marshall's &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Bible-Scripture-Theology-Studies/dp/0801027756"&gt;Beyond the Bible: Moving from Scripture to Theology&lt;/a&gt;. In this short book, Professor Marshall attempts to offer guidance for the task of applying scriptural insight to contemporary issues.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What I found disturbing, though, was that the book seems to give us a hermeneutic which allows us to reinterpret the teaching of Scripture so that at times it says something far different from what it originally said and meant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The reinterpretation seems to allow us to say what Jesus or Paul would have said, or should have said, had they lived today. What a shame that they were not free to say what God had intended!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some time before I had read William Webb's &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Slaves-Women-Homosexuals-Exploring-Hermeneutics/dp/0830815619"&gt;Slaves, Women &amp; Homosexuals: Exploring the Hermeneutics of Cultural Analysis,&lt;/a&gt;which also seems to allow us a way of avoiding some of what the Bible teaches by envisioning where it was leading. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I was interested to read &lt;a href="http://www.koinoniablog.net/2009/09/counterpoints.html"&gt;Four Views on Moving Beyond the Bible to Theology&lt;/a&gt;, which interacts with Marshall's book and includes chapters by William Webb, Walter Kaiser, Daniel Doriani and Kevin Vanhoozer. I haven't finished this book yet, but again find Webb's contributions unsatisfying. Kaiser's principlizing model does seem also give  modern readers an out whereby  we can find the principle behind what Scripture says, but deny the apparent original force of its teaching.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kaiser may use this method to rewrite what the Bible appears to teach on the roles of men and women and women's ministry, but others could easily take it further to white out other teachings which are found objectionable by Twenty-first Century folk.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Daniel Doriani's chapter is refreshing and encouraging and shows how we can "go beyond the Bible" without departing from its teachings: we can find principles for living today which were not originally addressed in the Bible, but which do not contradict the old book, but can be shown to be in harmony with it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dr Doriani points out that we can learn from narrative in the Bible, as well as from commands, promises and warnings. It has often been said that we shouldn't make doctrine out of narrative. Yet, the Bible &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a narrative.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He says that the characters in the Bible and the stories are intended teach us what to do and what not to do. Sometimes the narrator tells us whether the character or story is intended as a good or bad example. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Where the narrator does not tell us, we can compare the passage with the rest of what the writer presents as positive or negative, or go further by reading what the rest of Holy Scripture has to say.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-596571373007844552?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.zondervan.com/Cultures/en-US/Product/ProductDetail.htm?ProdID=com.zondervan.9780310276555&amp;QueryStringSite=Zondervan' title='Beyond the Bible?'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/596571373007844552/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=596571373007844552' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/596571373007844552'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/596571373007844552'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/01/beyond-bible.html' title='Beyond the Bible?'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-4827140079195792499</id><published>2010-01-06T00:16:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2010-01-06T00:23:44.055+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='In All Honesty'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='marriage'/><title type='text'>One point stuck in my mind</title><content type='html'>Jean Williams' blog is always encouraging and always worth reading.&lt;blockquote&gt;One point stuck in my mind in her article about learning to love your marriage partner. It was all good, as the young people say, but this is the bit that got me thinking tonight:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Find friends who support your marriage. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What a sensible suggestion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A few years ago a young married woman commented to me that in her place of work the other women spent all day tearing strips off their husbands and continually berating them. How important it is to have friends who will remind us of the good qualities of our and their marriage partners.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-4827140079195792499?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://jeaninallhonesty.blogspot.com/' title='One point stuck in my mind'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/4827140079195792499/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=4827140079195792499' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/4827140079195792499'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/4827140079195792499'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/01/one-point-stuck-in-my-mind.html' title='One point stuck in my mind'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-778955598690412638</id><published>2010-01-02T17:10:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T17:44:18.280+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Old Testament'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Doming Lucasi'/><title type='text'>New Testament yes, Old Testament no, no, no!</title><content type='html'>Tackling the New Testament is much easier than successfully getting through the Old.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It's more familiar&lt;br /&gt;It's shorter [NT: 260 chapters versus OT: 969!]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;But, as Bible translator, Doming Lucasi observed, &lt;blockquote&gt;Having the New Testament without the Old Testament is like having a sword without a handle.&lt;/blockquote&gt;If you want to come to grips with that handle, here are some tips that helped me. &lt;blockquote&gt;1. Nobody said you had to read the Old Testament through from beginning to end.&lt;br /&gt;2. Nobody ever said you had to read the Old Testament before the New Testament.&lt;br /&gt;3. Nobody ever said that every part of the Bible is equally important: it is not wrong to spend more time reading the stories than all those genealogies &lt;/blockquote&gt;Ever noticed that although every sin, any sin will keep you out of God's coming kingdom, not all sins are equal?&lt;br /&gt;Similarly, each part of the Bible is important and has something to teach you, but it is more important to know that you are a sinner who needs Jesus to save you, than it is to know all of the 613 laws in the Old Testament!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Suggestions for making the task easier:&lt;blockquote&gt;1. Read part of the Old Testament and part of the New Testament each time you work on your project of reading through the whole Old Testament.&lt;br /&gt;2. For a balanced read-through, try reading 4 chapters of the Old Testament for every one chapter you read of the New. One way of doing this is to read 3 chapters of the part of the Old you are currently tackling, one psalm and one chapter of the New Testament.&lt;br /&gt;3. Read a short book or two between tackling the longer ones, to break it up and to give you a sense of achievement. It's fun to be able to say &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've read five books of the Old Testament&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;br /&gt;even if these include &lt;br /&gt;Genesis - 50 chapters&lt;br /&gt;Ruth - 4 chapters&lt;br /&gt;Obadiah -1 chapter&lt;br /&gt;Haggai - 2 chapters &lt;br /&gt;and &lt;br /&gt;Lamentations - 5 chapters.&lt;br /&gt;4. Don't spend a long time over the long genealogical lists. You can always go back to these on a later read-through. But the goal now is to read it through once.&lt;br /&gt;5. In a rapid read-through, don't stop to ponder the many curious and strange things you encounter, because this will prevent you from completing your task. &lt;br /&gt;It is important to think through the many problems you encounter, but you don't have to do it all at once, and often, keeping going will explain a problem you met earlier. &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Scripture explains Scripture.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;br /&gt;For more help, please read my earlier post &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;It's &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; time of year again&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-778955598690412638?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/778955598690412638/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=778955598690412638' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/778955598690412638'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/778955598690412638'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-testament-yes-old-testament-no-no.html' title='New Testament &lt;i&gt;yes&lt;/i&gt;, Old Testament &lt;i&gt;no, no, no!&lt;/i&gt;'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-8725732175316606405</id><published>2010-01-01T16:25:00.004+11:00</published><updated>2010-01-01T18:05:03.834+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='humour'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible reading'/><title type='text'>It's that time of year</title><content type='html'>At this time of year, many Christians' thoughts turn again to reading through the Bible. Most of us have read some of it over and over, but many of us have never succeeded in reading the whole shebang.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you remember &lt;a href="http://www.rockyandbullwinkle.com/"&gt;Rocky and Bullwinkle&lt;/a&gt;? Rocky comments: That trick &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;never&lt;/span&gt; works and Bullwinkle retorts &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;This&lt;/span&gt; time for sure. I think that is how many of us feel in trying to read through the Bible. Even though we believe that it is inspired by God and is good for us, all too often it can feel like eating broccoli, which, we are also told, mostly by our mothers, is &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;good &lt;/span&gt;for us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[Don't tell anyone I said this, but do you know the difference between snot and broccoli?&lt;br /&gt;Kids won't eat broccoli!]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What can we do to succeed this time? Here are a few myths to be knocked out of the way:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;1. Nobody said that you have to start on 1st January!&lt;br /&gt;2. Nobody said that you have to do it every day, and that if you miss a day, you've failed.&lt;br /&gt;3. Nobody said that you should start at the beginning, keep going till you get to the end, then stop. &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;That wasn't God, that was the Queen of Hearts in Through the Looking Glass!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. Nobody said that you should complete the project in a year, or &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;this&lt;/span&gt; year.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Here are a few suggestions that may work:&lt;blockquote&gt;1. Read the Bible like you eat an elephant. &lt;br /&gt;How do you eat a whole elephant?&lt;br /&gt;One bite at a time.&lt;br /&gt;2. &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Set smaller goals.&lt;/span&gt; Don't plan to read all 1189 chapters if you haven't yet read through any of the longer books, such as Isaiah, which has 66 chapters, Jeremiah, which has 52 chapters [and is even longer than Isaiah, because there are several really long chapters] or the book of Psalms, which has 150 individual psalms, one of which has 176 verses, divided into 22 sections.&lt;br /&gt;3. Start with something more manageable, such as reading through some of the little books. If you were to &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;read through all 26 little books&lt;/span&gt;, although you would only have read about 10% of the whole, you would have quite a good overview of what the Bible is saying.[Wasn't that thoughtful of our heavenly Father!]&lt;br /&gt;4. Use charts which you can tick off as you go. I like doing this! It gives me a sense of having accomplished something.&lt;br /&gt;5. After reading through all the little books, have a crack at tackling a gospel - Mark is the shortest.&lt;br /&gt;6. Read the Bible itself, at first, without looking up commentaries or study notes. These can be very helpful, but they aren't the Word of God, but merely aids to help you read God's Word. &lt;br /&gt;If you are a Christian [which means you have given up trying to be good enough for God, and are trusting in Jesus alone to save you], God has promised to help you to read and understand his Word - &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;and to do what it says!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When we begin living for Christ, instead of for ourselves, God's Holy Spirit comes to live in us, and guides us. The same Spirit who inspired the writers is with us today to help us to understand what He [and they] wrote. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nearly forgot. &lt;br /&gt;It is much easier to read a version that is written in the language people speak today, rather than one that is very formal.&lt;br /&gt;The Good News Bible or The New Living Translation are much easier to read than some other popular versions, which may be more useful for later, in depth study.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-8725732175316606405?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.youversion.com/reading-plans/all' title='It&apos;s &lt;span style=&quot;font-style:italic;&quot;&gt;that&lt;/span&gt; time of year'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/8725732175316606405/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=8725732175316606405' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8725732175316606405'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/8725732175316606405'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2010/01/its-that-time-of-year.html' title='It&apos;s &lt;span style=&quot;font-style:italic;&quot;&gt;that&lt;/span&gt; time of year'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-4642621084469444064</id><published>2009-12-29T23:08:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2009-12-29T23:11:39.854+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='election'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='assurance'/><title type='text'>Assurance</title><content type='html'>James Anderson's answer for those who are troubled by whether they are among God's children:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;All those, and only those, who come to saving faith have been redeemed by Christ. So the question of whether I have been redeemed by Christ reduces (like the question of whether I am elect) to the question of whether I have saving faith. &lt;br /&gt;If I recognize that I am a sinner in need of a Savior, and that Christ is the only Savior of sinners, and I am looking to him alone for salvation, then I have every reason to believe that Christ died for me.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-4642621084469444064?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://proginosko.wordpress.com/2009/12/03/calvinism-assurance-and-inerrancy/#comment-239' title='Assurance'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/4642621084469444064/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=4642621084469444064' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/4642621084469444064'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/4642621084469444064'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2009/12/james-andersons-answer-for-those-who.html' title='Assurance'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-5781515576058897518</id><published>2009-12-29T21:21:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2009-12-29T21:22:28.430+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='humour'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='grammar'/><title type='text'>Grammar lesson</title><content type='html'>The teacher said:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A noun is a naming word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is the naming word in the sentence:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;‘He named the ship LUSITANIA’?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;‘Named’, said George.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wrong, it’s ‘ship’.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, said George.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The teacher said:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A verb is a doing word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is the doing word in the sentence:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;‘I like doing homework’?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;‘Doing’, said George.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wrong, it’s ‘like’.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, said George.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The teacher said:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An adjective is a describing word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is the describing word in the sentence&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;‘Describing sunsets is boring’?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;‘Describing’, said George.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wrong, it’s ‘boring’.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know it is, said George.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Michael Rosen&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-5781515576058897518?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.joppeluiten.nl/grammar_lesson.htm' title='Grammar lesson'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/5781515576058897518/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=5781515576058897518' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/5781515576058897518'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/5781515576058897518'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2009/12/grammar-lesson.html' title='Grammar lesson'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-487907842390306161</id><published>2009-12-29T17:28:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2009-12-29T17:29:36.362+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='humour'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Quote Garden'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='quotes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='religion'/><title type='text'>Three religious truths</title><content type='html'>There are three religious truths:  &lt;br /&gt;1) Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah.  &lt;br /&gt;2) Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the Christian faith.  &lt;br /&gt;3) Baptists do not recognize each other in the liquor store or at Hooters.  ~Author Unknown&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-487907842390306161?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/487907842390306161/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=487907842390306161' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/487907842390306161'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/487907842390306161'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2009/12/three-religious-truths.html' title='Three religious truths'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-1900754972294751427</id><published>2009-12-29T13:30:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2009-12-29T13:40:25.235+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Quote Garden'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='quotes'/><title type='text'>The Quote Garden</title><content type='html'>I certainly don't approve of, or agree with all of the quotes at this site, but I do like many of them and am grateful for the work that Terri Guillemets has done over the past twenty years collecting, and eleven years publishing such a great array of tidbits from thousands of sources.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The quotes are organised into more than 400 overlapping categories. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I enjoyed this quote today:&lt;blockquote&gt;He who trims himself to suit everyone will soon whittle himself away.  ~Raymond Hull&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-1900754972294751427?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.quotegarden.com/index.html' title='The Quote Garden'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/1900754972294751427/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=1900754972294751427' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1900754972294751427'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1900754972294751427'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2009/12/quote-garden.html' title='The Quote Garden'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-394896619662528015</id><published>2009-12-28T16:04:00.001+11:00</published><updated>2009-12-28T16:07:04.248+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible software'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Logos 4'/><title type='text'>Slight hyperbole</title><content type='html'>Waxing enthusiastic about the new Logos 4 software, Marcus exclaimed:&lt;blockquote&gt;There is no other way to study God's word than to use Logos Bible Software&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A tad overstated, Marcus?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-394896619662528015?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://blog.logos.com/archives/2009/12/4_ways_to_move_to_logos_4.html' title='Slight hyperbole'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/394896619662528015/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=394896619662528015' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/394896619662528015'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/394896619662528015'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2009/12/slight-hyperbole.html' title='Slight hyperbole'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-1719728686510769937</id><published>2009-12-27T23:38:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2009-12-27T23:42:26.791+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='twitter'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Piper'/><title type='text'>Are you a twit?</title><content type='html'>You don't have to be a twit to tweet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't tweet, but I subscribe to John Piper's &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/johnpiper"&gt;tweets&lt;/a&gt; via rss.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He writes pithy tweets which express the gospel succinctly, or which point to sites that will inform, challenge or encourage you. It is worth subscribing to read his terrific messages.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-1719728686510769937?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://tinyurl.com/o2cauu' title='Are you a twit?'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/1719728686510769937/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=1719728686510769937' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1719728686510769937'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1719728686510769937'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2009/12/are-you-twit.html' title='Are you a twit?'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-6364723015385941552</id><published>2009-12-23T08:45:00.004+11:00</published><updated>2009-12-23T08:54:38.661+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Santa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christmas'/><title type='text'>Christmas?</title><content type='html'>As I walked through a Bathurst shopping centre yesterday, two things struck me:&lt;br /&gt;A woman was saying to a little boy &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;He &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;does&lt;/span&gt; see everything you do. If you don't behave you won't get that toy on Christmas Day.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Then, I heard two teenagers laughing rather loudly and then saw that they were amused by the things parents do to their children. A little girl was screaming her lungs out, as they tried to coerce her to have her photo taken with Santa.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How different is our gracious God from this myth that we foist on children! We try to manipulate them into being good by threats, then, on Christmas morning, they get the presents anyway.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-6364723015385941552?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/6364723015385941552/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=6364723015385941552' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6364723015385941552'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6364723015385941552'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2009/12/as-i-walked-through-bathurst-shopping.html' title='Christmas?'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-1099545757977499619</id><published>2009-12-22T18:03:00.002+11:00</published><updated>2009-12-22T18:09:07.705+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='school chaplaincy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='home schooling'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christian schools'/><title type='text'>Home school, state school or Christian school?</title><content type='html'>... or church school or Roman Catholic school or posh school or ...?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I like this post by Nicole Starling, in which she writes positively about sending your children to a public school, without rubbishing those who do otherwise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We sent all four of our children to the local state school, but our second son went on to the Conservatorium high school, which is still a state school, but special for Music.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I like these excerpts, but the whole article is worth your time:&lt;blockquote&gt;We've decided to send our children to the local public school because:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   1. Our kids don't have any special needs that would require otherwise at the moment.&lt;br /&gt;   2. Our local state school is a good school and the kids will be taught well there.&lt;br /&gt;   3. There are a few other Christian families who also send their children to the school.&lt;br /&gt;   4. We want our kids to learn how to be followers of Jesus in the midst of the world, and learn to love their non-Christian neighbours. We want them to desire the salvation of their friends - to pray for them, to talk to them about Jesus. We believe that this is at the heart of what it is to be a disciple of Jesus, and essential to what we need to teach them as parents.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We don't do this naively. A local public school will have its own secularism that is anti-Christian. The teachers usually don't (explicitly, systematically) share their religious views at primary school, but everything they do will still be informed in some way by their own personal beliefs. And on a larger scale, the curriculum and structures of the school will be intentionally (and appropriately!) secular, and frequently (and inappropriately!) informed by the secularism of the majority of the politicians and bureaucrats who oversee them. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There will be all sorts of things that their teachers will say, out loud, about religion, sex, the environment, success, and so on, that are inconsistent with what the Bible says. And in addition, of course, there will be all the things they don't say; the six-hour-long silence, every day, in which they don't say anything about the God who made the world - all the things they think they can teach as if He was irrelevant. All of that is part of the deal, and we know that's the case!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So Dave and I don't just wave goodbye to our kids at the school gate and wish them luck! We pray with them, we talk about how they are to behave when they're there, we debrief in the afternoon when they get home and in the evening, when the stories finally come out. We try to get to know our kids' friends, to invite them round to our home to play, and to get to know their families. We aim to get involved in the life of the school - in the P &amp; C, on the School council, in the classroom helping with reading - one day, maybe even Canteen duty! And we try to be vigilant with what happens at school, so that we don't just shrug our shoulders in resignation when things happen that are inconsistent with (good) policy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are still days when I do long to homeschool - but on days like that I try to remind myself that I am a homeschooler - just one who happens to send her kids out on a six-hour excursion to the local primary school for 200 or so days of the year. When they're off at school, we don't stop being responsible for them, and there are some vital things we need to teach them that would be very hard for them to learn without going there. (I don't mean maths and science and so on - I mean how to stand against the crowd, how to respect and obey non-Christian authorities, how to be overtly Christian in a non-Christian environment, and how to give an answer when they're asked about the reason for their hope.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our strategy is not to send them out into the minefields as child-soldiers, untrained and unarmed and unprepared. Our strategy is to send them out day by day, for part of the day, for part of the year, so that they will learn to be soldiers, both now and when they're grown up, and to do all we can to train and equip them along the way.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-1099545757977499619?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://168hrs.blogspot.com/2009/10/why-we-dont-homeschool.html' title='Home school, state school or Christian school?'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/1099545757977499619/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=1099545757977499619' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1099545757977499619'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/1099545757977499619'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2009/12/home-school-state-school-or-christian.html' title='Home school, state school or Christian school?'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7883318.post-6540591195751952427</id><published>2009-12-21T16:38:00.000+11:00</published><updated>2009-12-21T16:40:13.382+11:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mary MacKillop'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='saints'/><title type='text'>Many other 'saints' go unrecognised</title><content type='html'>I like this letter for many reasons. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; My wife is a saint. And I don't need the Pope to confirm it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For nearly 40 years she worked as a nurse in many parts of Australia easing the sufferings of the sick and helping to cure many. She is idolised by her three children and is a special nana to two adoring little girls.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aged 74, she works in a charity shop, gives part of her age pension to Medecins Sans Frontieres and to World Vision to help a child struggling to survive in Gaza.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Vatican has never heard of her. The Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, never calls on a Sunday for a media photo opportunity. Yet she has performed scores of miracles in the 50 years I have lived with her. So why the fuss about Mary MacKillop?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Vincent Matthews Forestville&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7883318-6540591195751952427?l=gontroppo.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.smh.com.au/national/letters/survey-gets-into-the-spirit-of-religion-debate-20091220-l7n4.html' title='Many other &apos;saints&apos; go unrecognised'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/feeds/6540591195751952427/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7883318&amp;postID=6540591195751952427' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6540591195751952427'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7883318/posts/default/6540591195751952427'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gontroppo.blogspot.com/2009/12/many-other-saints-go-unrecognised.html' title='Many other &apos;saints&apos; go unrecognised'/><author><name>David McKay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04027490637755317026</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7684/507/640/davidmckay.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
